Talk:Power Rangers/Archive 1

Enough Lists Already!
We know that there are variations between the series. It is useless and counterproductive to list every single variation between series in the Trivia section. In light of this I have created a Variations section, listing what varies and avoiding the "which series did what" annoyance. XPeeple 23:17, 18 March 2006 (UTC)XPeeple

"Incarnations"
Please use the word "incarnation" sparingly in this article, as it already appears nearly a dozen times (and even three times in a single sentence).

Advertising
We shouldn't be adding anymore links. People can simply advertise their Power Rangers site.
 * Okay, it has gone overboard. Goodbye External Links! Andros 1337 22:10, 4 Nov 2004 (UTC)


 * Some external links are useful to fans. We should just keep it down to a manageable amount. I would suggest, at the very least, including 'The Writer's Guide to the Power Rangers Universe' (http://www.rovang.org/wg/wgindex.htm) and 'Power Rangers Central' (www.rangercentral.com). -- Supermorff

I just got rid of some of the links of sites that aren't good enough resources. I think most of the links there are fine right now. If the site is a good resource I think its fine, but if people add sites that clearly aren't good enough, those links should be deleted-Tuxedo Dragon


 * What about PR sites that offer PR Media? Aren't those good enough? Either way it should be left to either official websites or damn near unoffical "official" websites. —Preceding unsigned comment added by El Greco (talk • contribs)
 * The media sites may be illegal (downloading episodes/music/etc), and they should not be included. Ryūlóng 02:07, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
 * And your blanking of the various sites was uncalled for. Those have been proven to be useful, and can be included under Wikipedia's external links policy. Ryūlóng 02:08, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm not talking about episodes. I'm talking about morphing clips, zord transformations and such, no music unless like some Ron Wasserman songs have been allowed to be exchanged freely. And Wikipedia doesn't want site to be advertised, so why are there 4 messageboards being advertised? There are a bunch more better than most of those. And excluding those messageboards. There are a TON more sites that a better than those you have in the links section. And by the way who made you president of the section? Wiki's a place where everyone can put there own two cents in. - —Preceding unsigned comment added by El Greco (talk • contribs)
 * But those sites are good. Rangerboard and the official Jetix website were removed. Also, video clips and songs are illegal to download. And please read What Wikipedia is not for more references. Ryūlóng 21:17, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, could we atleast keep relevant and up to date sites? 1ranger.com hasn't been updated since 2004. That's been two years since an update. www.ranger-retrocenter.com is a much better resource than 1ranger.com. And how about combining Rovang's websites into one. Your advertising one site with two links. And do we also need to be advertising Jetix? It's okay for the official PR site, but it's messageboard? On the topic of media all of those sites in the external links section contain somekind of media whether it be video clips or other stuff related to PR. rangerfiles.tk does seem to be working. Funaroboard and Funaroverse are another excellent board and site with a very resourceful and intelligent members basin with tons of PR knowledge. Galaxy of Chaos is now a wiki site that anyone can edit which is just like this site. Is it needed then? - —Preceding unsigned comment added by El Greco (talk • contribs)
 * Meh. I thought I was the first person to come up with the idea of a unique PR wiki.  =/ Arrow 02:16, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
 * That would be sufficient to remove the outdated links (I've never gone to 1ranger, so I do not know what is and isn't there). However, rovang's website is linked in two separate ways (and can be done as such since one is updated more than the other). It is not considered advertising if the official website is used (linking to Jetix.tv as the official website for the TV show is justified and not advertising, and in fact its Bandai site can be linked, as well). Funaroboard/verse can be linked to, as it and Rangerboard are both fairly reliable for message boards. Also, advertising is not the issue with external links here (save for constant additions of one link that can be construed to be spam). And as Galaxy of Chaos was an established site, and is now a wiki, it can be linked to, as well. Ryūlóng 22:33, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Alright, I added Funaroverse and Funaroboard to the links and boards section. --El GrecoEl Greco 19:04, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Major Characters
The choices of major characters that were included were very arbitrary. Bear in mind that there is a catagory of Power Rangers characters, and the characters are linked to from the individual series pages. There is no need to list either a random list (which would be pointless) or a comprehensive list (which would occupy too much space) here. -- Supermorff

If you feel that strongly, you can remove it... kelvSYC 02:29, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

I did already, I just thought I'd explain why. Supermorff, 2 May, 1:28 (GMT)

Rick_lay95 attempted to create a listing of the major characters. I have removed it, accordingly, based upon this exchange. -- DrachenFyre 12:09, August 9, 2005 (UTC)

Plot Sequence
Kudos to whoever wrote the Plot Sequence section. Very funny and well-written. --Doug teh H-Nut, 3:40 PM, May 16, 2005 (EST)

Agreed. I tried to play with the format but I couldn't improve it. Sorry for all of the edits. 05:03, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

Beating / Murder
"Finland pulled the series as they believed that the series caused two boys to beat up a girl in 1993 (it was eventually found that the murder was unconnected to the series)."

...so which was it... a murder or a beating?

Dunno. Anything to do with violence, I guess.

But it says "beat up" in one part of the sentence and "murder" in another.

I don't know for sure, and it sounds suspiciously like hyperbole, but it might mean "two boys beat a girl to death", hence ending confusion. -- Supermorff

The beating could of lead to her death, they don't have to die at the beat to be consider a murder. Zer0_Gun

List of Rangers
Someone has added a table containing the names and positions of all previous serving Power Rangers. I have removed it. This is a pointless waste. Other articles are available (which perhaps should be linked to) containing lists of characters. This table contained links to irrelevant articles (the article Sam being one example), and all but two links as to the positions of the Rangers went nowhere (the other two went to the wrong articles). Supermorff 19:14, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

IP 66.80.88.25 has added a list of Rangers, even though the issue is addressed specifically within these Talk pages. Both myself and the user under IP address 66.80.88.25 would be in violation of Wikipedia's 3RR and I do not wish to see that happen. - DrachenFyre 06:21, August 14, 2005 (UTC)

Oh, but you're happy to do so when it's in defense of your boyfriend  Aquaman. --Boycottthecaf 06:13, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

I have reverted the edit again. I have also added listings of the Power Rangers on the category pages in a more ordered manner, making a list of Power Rangers even less necessary here. -- Supermorff 16:45, 14 August 2005 (UTC)

I agree that this page does not need a list since both the Category information and the different Power Rangers serie personal pages would by enough to show all the links to the character files. 24.20.153.45

That table isn't nessicary. Some of the characters aren't even mentioned in the table/don't have pages and it makes no logical sense. You have the Zordon Era and then the Post-Zordon era. And then someone added "Disney/New Zealand" Era which makes no sense logically because that "era" is part of "Post-Zordon".--RangerKing 16:55, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Two cents on dispute over the two versions
Just my two cents, but the newer version seems far more complete, and also does a considerable amount of cleaning up over the older version. Keep the newer version in place. Schuminweb 02:51, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

I like the older version better. Is there really a need for a list of every single Ranger? Or every single "morphing call"? There's too much junk, stuff that would be better addressed on the pages for the individual series. --Cardinal biggles 15:54, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

The two version dispute is really only over the need for a list of every single Ranger. The new version, which I prefer, does not have such a list. Also, I happen to agree with you about the "morphing calls", but one thing at a time. -- Supermorff 11:36, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

I agree. Keep the second version, it is much clearer than the older one. Mushin 12:45, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

There's nothing wrong with the text of the second one itself. Reading it over again, I think you're right that it's clearer. But I think the junk that I mentioned before ought to be cut. --Cardinal biggles 23:32, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

New version, most definitely. AND I will add my vote to moving the morph calls to each incarnations' entry. It'll clean up this entry considerably. - DrachenFyre 11:16, August 29, 2005 (UTC)


 * Also please bear in mind, Wikipedia is not a paper encylopedia - "After a point, splitting an article into separate articles and leaving adequate summaries is a natural part of growth for a topic". Mushin 11:47, 29 August 2005 (UTC)


 * The version that kept the character list on a seperate page is MUCH cleaner, and as such, I vote to keep it as the current revision, and remove the other. --Ariamaki The Wiki-Wise 00:07, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

All users, we have a possible attempt on the dispute being reignited. An anyomous user has add the list of power rangers which Andros 1337 refused to include in the article. --Dynamo_ace 21:06, September 10, 2005 (UTC)

Morphin calls
Okay, now that the one dispute is over (resolution is to not include a comprehensive list of Rangers on this page), we can get started on our next one. Yay. I personally feel that we could find a better place - and a better format - for the Morphing calls section. A seperate article might be appropriate (perhaps even on Wikiquote, considering that's what they are), or maybe we should seperate them and include them in the seperate incarnation articles. Also, someone has added a link to a new Power Ranger page, which I think we could do without. -- Supermorff 15:05, 12 September 2005 (UTC)

Looks like someone's added the morphing calls, as well as a new "roll calls" section, back into the article. Again, is this really necessary? --Cardinal biggles 17:20, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

bleeped swear words, during the credits
This is one of the first children's television shows to include bleeped swear words, during the credits when outtakes were shown.

i read that on the page right and i watched these power rangers when i was young, and i dont understand. Can someone explain to me, i know wat a bleeped swear word is but about at the end of the credits

- reply -

On MMPR Season 3 through to the end of Power Rangers In Space they used to show bloopers and cut scenes from episodes during the end credits of the show. In some of the bloopers cast members were seen to swear.

Vandilism
You know, everytime I look at this page here is always vandilism going on or somebody cleaing it up. Why is this page the most vandilised page on wikipedia?

I know, this is ridculous, i say we either insert the "contrisual" tag the article or partly-lock the page so anon vandals can't edit. -Dynamo_ace Talk

The Power Rangers fandom is widespread and easily creates addicts out of fans. As the series changes annually, there is a constant inflow of information, which the more obsessive fans will try to insert into any resource they deem acceptable (read: anyone who will listen). This article is like a hydra--for every useless section you cut out, two more take its place. Look at the current, limitlessly useless "List of Power Rangers series" section. -XPeeple

haha i think you mean "vandalised" Plebmonk 22:54, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Toys
Is it just me, or does this artical seem to say that Power Rangesr is nothing more than a show to sell the toys? I am sure everyone knows that it is inaccurate, but should't that part of the artical be changed?

Re: Toys, toy revenues have been the main reason for Power Rangers' longevity. The show's Neilsen ratings are currently terrible, so it is unable to generate the TV advertising revenues that it was able to a decade ago--the show is not the main focus of the franchise, and the toy sales are the most lucrative aspect. It would not entirely inaccurate to say that the show only exists to sell toys now, but that implication is nowhere in the article.

Re: Re: Toys - "the franchise is headlined by similarly self-replicating television series, and is directly tied to the vast merchandising empire owned largely by Japanese toy company Bandai." No implication there then, no sirree.--Linear 18:40, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Misc.
In the first episode of power rangers, the blue ranger billy refers to alpha as an auto___ something. Anyone clear on what he said? --Cyberman 06:47, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
 * No, but I suggest it may have been automaton. Nevertheless, I doubt this is not the page to be querying this point. Supermorff 19:14, 10 August 2005 (UTC)


 * All Power Rangers and Power Ranger accessories on this site are new in box, and never been opened 1992 collectors items. All Power Ranger items listed on the following page were manufactured under license by the following companies: Gordy, Saban, Hope, and Ban Dai.

This is a dump of http://www.imagesunlimited.net/powerranger.htm what is it doing here? Mintguy

The "See Also" List
I can understand why Beetleborgs, VR Troopers, and Masked (Kamen) Rider are in this list, but why is there a link to Digimon Frontier? It has little to absolutely nothing to do with the Power Rangers universe. Beetleborgs, VR Troopers, and Masked Rider are at least other series that have footage from Japanese tokusatsu and are in a similar format. Digimon can only be linked because of Bandai and Saban, but that was fairly early on. Ryulong 20:39, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

Some people, for some reason or another, look at "Digimon" as a sister series to Power Rangers due to the fact that it was another successful Japanese series brought over to America and was highly successful. The other series you're thinking of is "Mystic Knights" which was fully original.--RangerKing 17:05, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

NPOV
This section: The Tokusatsu fandom expressively loathe Power Rangers because not only does the series mock the original Japanese source, but many feel that it tarnished the reputation of the genre as a whole; not only insulting Super Sentai, but having things like Godzilla, Ultraman and Kamen Rider being associated with it despite being obviously different. Some fans overreact being calling the series "racist," this resulted in a term used by PR Fans, "Sentai Snob" (which now evolved to "Toku Snob"). It was countered with the term PR Snob (or Anti-Sentite). This form of debating is found within the anime community when it came to the subject of "subtitles" and "dubbing."

doesn't sound like a neutral point of view. For example, "Some fans overreact being calling the series "racist," this resulted in a term used by PR Fans, "Sentai Snob" (which now evolved to "Toku Snob"). It was countered with the term PR Snob (or Anti-Sentite)."

Continuity
Took out minor reference (unilaterally, I guess) to team-ups possibly being out of continuity. This has never been insinuated on the show, and I think unnecessarily confusing. --Mikntosh 04:12, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

That's good, someone is basing that on the Sentai cross-overs. In Power Rangers, the team-ups are in continuity and occcasionaly add to the story. Take "Rangers Of Two Worlds" or "To The Tenth Power"/"The Power Of Pink" which handled a character removal.--RangerKing 17:07, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Colors for Rangers on articles
Please do not use "blue" as a color for the Blue Rangers. The text is difficult to read against the background. Use "lightblue" instead. Andros 1337 19:01, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I have done some changes to this, making it cyan in cases of Blue Rangers, the green identified by #00FF00 for Green Rangers, magenta for Pink Rangers, and black with white text for Black Rangers (the Gold Zeo Ranger has yellow text instead). Ryulong 04:16, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Did what was for black rangers with blue rangers (except for the two female blue rangers, as the cyan is closer to what they wore). Blue Ranger entries on these tables are now normal blue with white text. Ryulong 02:23, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Vote: Order of Rangers in articles
I have decided to start a vote on how the order of the Rangers should be on each article.
 * Vote either *Power Rangers rank or *Super Sentai number followed by an optional one sentence explanation and sign your vote with ~ 


 * I vote Power Rangers rank for the following reasons: The numbers on the zords/costumes are Sentai determined, and generally does not correspond to the status of the of a Ranger in Power Rangers. T.J. was obviously ranked higher than Carlos in Power Rangers In Space, and in Power Rangers Mystic Force, both Xander and Vida (and possibly even Madison) are ranked higher than Chip.  Rangercentral uses a similar convention, therefore Wikipedia should use Rangercentral as a model. Andros 1337 22:21, 14 June 2006 (UTC)


 * And I vote Super Sentai number for the following reasons: Even though there aren't correlations between rank and number that corresponds to a Ranger, the various orders can be seen in the Power Ranger series, often affected directly by the raw Super Sentai footage. For example, in Power Rangers: Zeo, the numbers are specifically called out during the Morphing sequence (Zeo Ranger I: Pink, Zeo Ranger II: Yellow, etc.), and various other Morphing sequences also use the order from the original Super Sentai.  And often, the numbers are featured prominently on either suit or costume (such as the bold #1 on the Red Turbo Zords or the 100 on the SPD Shadow Ranger's suit). Ryulong 22:39, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
 * The Turbo Rangers had their numbers on their arms, much like the police logo on the SPD suits.Digifiend 13:55, 20 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Just do it in the order that they got into their huge megazord thingy, so red blue black yellow pink (i think) then order of appearance so green, gold and whatever others there may be. Also, you have to mention the armadillo dude somewhere, he was teh sex. Plebmonk 22:57, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Colons? Wrong, but OK.
I thought I was helping. There hasn't been a colon in ANY PR series title.

I understand, though, they need to be in for the intricate web of links among the many pages.
 * Even though there are no colons in the title, "Power Rangers" is considered the title of any series/season, where something like "Wild Force" or "Zeo" or "S.P.D." is a subtitle. The entire title would be "Title: Subtitle" and that is how the articles are named.  The current series that is being broadcast is "Power Rangers: Mystic Force" where "Power Rangers" is the main title and "Mystic Force" is the subtitle. Ryulong 03:14, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
 * To each his own, then. FYI, the people who make the show don't use the colon.
 * True, but each title is written with Power Rangers above the subtitle, and subtitles are treated as above. Ryulong 03:41, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
 * See Subtitle. Ryulong 03:42, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Just delete this entire thing. No one wants to read our nit-picking. This is one web surfer who won't be back.
 * This is not nit-picking. It is important that future editors see this. If in any future edit, something similar is done, the editor can be deferred back to this conversation. Even if there are redirects to the other articles, it is always important to try and link to the official name. Ryulong 04:25, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
 * While Wikipedia may feel a certain way about subtitles, the official names of the series are not "Power Rangers: Zeo," et. al. One could nitpick to the point that they should be listed as "Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers: Zeo," et. al., which is clearly incorrect. JPG-GR 16:54, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Zord Template
In a little boredom, I made a navigational box for the various Zord articles, which can be seen here. I just randomly chose colors, because it looked very bland with the default light blue and white. It would be great if someone could fix the template to make it look better. Ryulong 07:50, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

Categories for characters
Could someone more familiar with power rangers (I haven't watched since Lightspeed Rescue, I think) add the categories Category:Black superheroes, Category:Extraterrestrial superheroes, Category:Extraterrestrial supervillains, Category:Fictional psychokineticists and others to the appropriate characters? It would improve the database of these characters immensely, thanks. Zythe 00:45, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I'll take care of the first three, but I don't recall how many other telekinetics there were other than Andros to handle the last one. Arrow 04:55, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Never mind; seems someone was a lot faster than me. Arrow 04:57, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I don't know if there were any other psychokineticists. Unless the Mystic Force Rangers count as they magically control elements. Ryulong 05:47, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
 * What about: Category:Fictional elementals, Category:Fictional aerokineticists, Category:Fictional cryokineticists, Category:Fictional electrokineticists, Category:Fictional geokineticists, Category:Fictional hydrokineticists and Category:Fictional pyrokineticists? Zythe 12:25, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Technically, the Mystic Force Rangers don't have their own pages yet. So, I think "Fictional elementals" may suffice for them. Ryulong 19:50, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
 * And I've been working on adding Category:Fictional teleporters and Category:Superheroes (applies to all who aren't extraterrestrial superheroes, etc.) to a bunch. Zythe 21:06, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

"Bad words" vandal
It appears that an editor has something against Ranger Central, as the editor has repeated addition of "Ranger Central has bad words" on it. I've been reverting the changes, as I don't really believe what he is saying. His most recent edit is here. Ryulong 19:49, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Series Vs Seasons
We need to stick to one and one only and it needs to be "seasons". Power Rangers is shown on American television and despite the fact it changes themes and casts, each year is a new season. There's no ifs, ands, or buts about it. Plus, seasons are the official stance of both Saban and Disney. They both look at each year as a new season, not series. The series is "Power Rangers" not "Power Rangers: insert subtitle". Though when talking about Mighty Morphin as a whole, it should be called either by its name or by calling it an incarnation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by RangerKing (talk • contribs)


 * First of all, new comments go at the bottom of a talk page. Second, my comments: The series "Power Rangers" is more of a franchise, and each different incarnation is its own series within the franchise. The first three seasons are in one series title, and each successive season has had a different title, and could be called a series. When in television line ups, the show isn't called "Power Rangers", it's called "Power Rangers: [Insert sub title]". The different Doctor Who television series are dealt as separate series, even though they share the same title. The Super Sentai series that Power Rangers is based on also is separated by series, and not seasons. Each adaptation into English is a separate series, in my eyes. Ryulong 02:06, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
 * A note on Super Sentai: Actually, each separate series are treated as part of the larger series. A superseries and thirty subseries, if you will. Ryulong 02:09, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Seconded. Each series is produced as a seperate television show that happens to be part of a larger franchise, not different season of the same show.--SB | T 02:43, 6 July 2006 (UTC)


 * However, that's not the official stance by the company. The official stance by Disney as well as BanDai is that each year is a season. That's the official way of looking at it and, technically, the right way. You don't base things on our own opinions or what the source material does/did. Plus this is Wikipedia which is supposed to provide neutral, accurate, and official information aside from personal bias or opinion. So, if Disney says each year is a season (and they count each season accurately with the count of 14) than that's what this page needs to reflect.--RangerKing 16:51, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I agree with RangerKing here and I prefer that nomenclature anyways. I especially agree because people who aren't as familiar with PR as it is after the first few incarnations will probably get confused by using 'series', whereas everyone will clearly know what's being referred to with 'seasons'.  However, I'd also want to see proof that this is how Disney and/or Bandai works; a link to some sort of press release or document by them would be all that's really necessary for convincing me. Arrow 22:57, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
 * The only knowledge I have of a press release is one that's linked on the Power Rangers: Operation Overdrive article. It says, "Next year's theme will be called Power Rangers: Operation Overdrive" . Not series or season. Ryulong 23:13, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
 * And that sources is from the licensing department of Disney who deals merchandise and nothing more. While the production team actually works with production codes. The show has consistant production numbers like S.P.D. is the 13th season and the first two digits of an epsiode's number is 13 followed by the episode number of that episode. Example: Beginnings Pt. 1 would be 1301. (Source: http://web.archive.org/web/20050310103719/www.powerrangers-info.com/Publicity-News-2005-TDDFPRSPDE15.html). The production codes released by Disney is the best information and not formal press releases because they have been incorrect even with episode numbers.--RangerKing 01:10, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Restoration to Earlier Version?
Why was the main "Power Rangers" page restored to an early version of the page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by RangerKing (talk • contribs)
 * Because you removed content without any sort of rationale behind it, specifically links and WP formatting for tables. Ryulong 22:47, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Actually all I removed was a few links because I felt like those resources weren't up to par if someone wanted more information about "Power Rangers", espcially "1Ranger.com" and "Jen's whatever it was" which were either inadequet or very old. I actually accidently formatted one table to add the generic Power Rangers logo at the top of it, but I messed it up.--RangerKing 00:37, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Masked Rider Information
What is the source about Saban severing links between Power Rangers and Masked Rider due to declining popularity for Power Rangers? —Preceding unsigned comment added by RangerKing (talk • contribs)
 * It's generally taken that the popularity of Power Rangers was waning as MMPR neared its end. Turbo is even considered a Jump the shark moment. Ryulong 21:16, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
 * However, it's not nesscarily the truth and I don't see what Turbo has to do with Masked Rider, but whatever. RangerKing —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.57.105.49 (talk • contribs)

Spin-Off Information
Recently I posted some information about the spin-off that was proposed for Bulk and Skull that being done around Turbo, which explained their actors removal from the show and when that failed they had to return to their regular roles. Why was this removed? Was it because it sounded wild? If you need proof, you can find it here: http://www.awwman.com/nps/. That website has an audio interview with Paul Schrier (Bulk) where he talks about the proposed spin-off.--RangerKing 01:31, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
 * It did sound a little too strange. Perhaps you can make a note of this supposed spin-off on the Turbo article in the trivia section, as it would probably fit better there. Ryūlóng 01:33, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Why should it go there when the Masked Rider information isn't solely in the Mighty Morphin' page? --RangerKing 04:36, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Because it went through and it doesn't explain anything such as the disappearance of Narvy and Schrier for an entire series/season? Ryūlóng 04:41, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Actually it did, they were busy doing pre-production work which Narvy and Schrier was obviosly pretty involved in. And it was only for half a season they were even gone for.--RangerKing 06:35, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
 * That's not exactly what I meant. The Masked Rider turned into a full series and was aired. The Bulk and Skull proposed spin-off that only went through the bulk of pre-production could be used on the Turbo trivia section to explain why they were turned into Chimpanzees and be explained in full either there or in Bulk and Skull's article. There could be a mention on in the main Power Rangers trivia section, linking to the mention of the spin-off in either the Turbo trivia or a new section at their article. Ryūlóng 06:48, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
 * RangerKing, please note that this article is a general overview of the entire franchise, not a dumping ground for every factoid about everything -- we have articles on every series, numerous characters, and so on, where most things that would be classified as "trivia" are more appropriate. In addition, it seems to me, based on Ryulong's edit summary that it was removed because it lacked a citation. You have provided that, but please remember to do that in the article itself, when you add information. In any case, when I saw the edit, I agreed with it, because the detail is more appropriate for Bulk and Skull, where it already is. (I added a citation because I had recalled hearing it.) Thanks.--SB | T 07:06, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Alien Rangers
I'm sorry, when was it established that Alien Rangers was more than a miniseries? Zero X Marquis 16:50, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
 * It was established the same time that people started arguing over whether Super Sentai was better than Power Rangers and vice versa. To cut it short, some people are idiots. Ryūlóng 19:39, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but I need a link, proof, something. As it stands, the episodes are contained in Season 3, which is a Mighty Morphin Power Rangers season, not a seperate series. If such proof isn't provided, I think it should be removed from the series section. Power Rangers and Sentai are not the sameZero X Marquis 16:45, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Mighty Morphin Alien Rangers had its own intro that featured Kakuranger footage as well as an altered theme song singing "Go Go Alien Rangers", and it only lasted ten episodes. I would think that's a separate series/season/miniseries/miniseason. If anything, it is considered separate by the fanon. Ryūlóng 20:06, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

I'm not denying that fans consider it a series, but that's not empirical, nor does it make it fact. I'm not denying that this isn't a miniseries, but I would hardly say that its its own series. Miniseries, by all means, but its own full fleged series? The theme song was only altered slightly, not one of the alien rangers were given star billing, it only being ten episodes would limit both its and the third season's episode length from the usual 30 or so, and having Kakuranger footage in the opening doesn't make it a series, that would be like saying half of the second season of Power Rangers was a seperate season (to a lesser extent albeit, but still). This is not its own series, but more of a miniseries, and it should not be listed as one. Zero X Marquis 20:39, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
 * However, I do not believe that Alien Rangers is mentioned as being its own series. I believe it is mentioned as being a mini-series. It had a radically different storyline than the third season of MMPR, an entirely new team of Rangers, a different name, a new cast of characters, and new Ranger suits (the Kakuranger footage was not used in the opening, perse, but mainly for when the Alien Rangers did battle). If anything, it can be called a glorified story arc because it was given its own (altered) theme song and title. However, since it did have its own separate name, it is considered separate from the other series (The Alien Rangers even came back in Zeo as the Super Sentai teams do in their "Vs." specials). Ryūlóng 20:46, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Show me where it is said to be considered different. Give me something verifiable? Anything? As it stands, there's nothing to say that it is, and various reputable sites say that is apart of season 3. Now, while it isn't unheard of a season to be broken down into two series, it isn't a common occurance. There needs to be something verifiable, not just a general concensus of the fan community. Zero X Marquis 07:16, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
 * The name shown in the opening sequence was "Mighty Morphin Alien Rangers." There was a massive re-casting, as new actors had to be found to play the younger versions of the previous Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. The Alien Rangers and Mighty Morphin Power Rangers were never seen together on screen in costume. The Alien Rangers had their own Zords (although shared the Shogunzords). The storyline of Alien Rangers was substantially different from MMPR. Even if Mighty Morphin Alien Rangers was not its own series, it was certainly its own story arc or mini-series. Ryūlóng 07:24, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
 * But, if this conversation is actually about the inclusion of Alien Rangers as a "series" in the template and/or the infobox on this article, then it is placed there for continuity issues. As you can see at the Mighty Morphin Alien Rangers article, it is specifically stated as a "mini-series". Ryūlóng 07:26, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

The info box is entitled "Tv Series" Not series, and even if it was series, this still isn't a series. At best, its a mini-series. If you can show me something, somewhere, showing me that it is, then fine, but until then, it should be classfied as what it is, a portion of episodes in Season 3 of Mighty Morphin Power Rangers (making it a miniseries) and removed from the infobox. Zero X Marquis 16:19, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
 * But I just stated that it is listed in the infobox and template as a "series" for continuity. If it was listed separately as a mini-series in the table, that would take away from the continuity the table if it would be helpful for this debate, then perhaps "TV series" can be changed to "television". Ryūlóng 19:14, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

PR Generations
Does anyone know why Jetix does not show episodes from In Space-Wild Force. The ones produced by Disney (Ninja Storm-Mystic Force) are shown in full seasons and (Mighty Morphin-Turbo) the major episodes of the series are shown for example one from MM was A Different Shade of Pink, Zeo was a Zeo Beginning and Turbo was Chase into Space. But everytime when it gets to the last Turbo episode (Chase into Space) it starts with PR Ninja Storm. One time during the Spells & Steels episode, Lightspeed Rescue episodes were shown (only 2) and one time ABC Family by mistake listed a Turbo episode as a Time Force episode. Does anyone know why Jetix does not show In Space-Wild Force. Candyo32 22:15, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
 * They are more than likely waiting to use up the episodes that they have from MMPR through Turbo (I remember watching a Turbo episode recently on Toon Disney, so they will probably go onto Space once Turbo is completed). Ninja Storm through Mystic Force they have produced, and that is why they are showing them regularly. Ryūlóng 22:56, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
 * But they have shown episodes from MMPR-Turbo ever since the beginning of Power Rangers Generations, so they couldn't have run out. They just show the key episodes in each series (MMPR-Turbo) over and over. Candyo32 01:47, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, they do have Wild Force episodes at their disposal as they purchased it mid-season. There is probably no real reason as to why they have not included the other series in the Generations line up, but for all we know they'll show an In Space episode in a month. Ryūlóng 02:29, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Toon Disney aired its first PRIS episode on October 2, 2006, and It will also air its first MMPR episode of Katherine Hillard as the Pink Ranger on October 10 (Master Vile and the Metallic Armor) 66.194.114.163 11:39, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
 * In turn, the first Lost Galaxy episode aired on October 30, 2006. 216.54.173.170 23:45, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm still waiting for the reason behind it though.. It just seems mad weird to have the Turbo Rangers go get shot to the moon, show the Disney Rangers instead & never seen again for years... Big continuity problems there...

You should seriously consider for criticisms'
The repetiviness of the show. Seriously, i watched like 15th season for nostaglia and the shows formulae is like identical to what i used to watch when i was little. I was bored within 5 minutes.


 * Yeah, but that's true by its design, especially after Countdown to Destruction (arguably at various points prior). The show isn't meant to entertain the same audience for 15 years, its a show that's meant for kids and entertain them for a season. The producers know that they have to keep it changing, as in the chararcters, look, toys, but keep most of it constant as it uses footage from a Japanese show that changes every year... and the last time they tried to extend the life of one of those shows (the original Power Rangers to us) the rating fell, and they fell hard. To criticize the show for staying the same over the years would be like giving it to Sesame Street; its inherent by its design, and is completely forgivable (ie, irrelevent) to critcisms. Zero X Marquis 15:35, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

On a side note, I'm going to remove/seperate a lot of the cricisms. Many of them are about the content of the show, while others are about real world issues. Specifically, the section comes off as if it were written by a fan that is embittered with the show, (hardly objective). So yeah, I'll do it tomorrow to give time to those that wish to keep it the same to voice their opinions Zero X Marquis 15:49, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

The beginning user's critism is wrong for the record, there hasn't been 15 seasons yet.RangerKing 16:02, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Third Movie
How can you state: "Contrary to wild Internet speculation, there have never been plans for a third Power Rangers movie, likely due to Turbo's box office failure." without proving any sources yourselves? Atleast the link I provided gave some valid information, your's doesn't. The Fandom has a right to know that there were possible plans to make a third movie, but they never got off the ground because of outside events. There was speculation during SPD or DT, if I'm not mistaken of a movie possibly, where's any info on that? You can't just go stating what I quoted above without, any backup. Do we know that it was Turbo's fault another PR movie wasn't made? I'd like to see evidence of that. Just because a movie didn't do well at the box office doesn't lead to another movie not being made. For all we know Saban and FOX, might not have felt like investing more money into motion pictures feeling the the TV show was much more profitable than a movie. So you can't go saying stuff like "Contrary to wild Internet speculation, there have never been plans for a third Power Rangers movie, likely due to Turbo's box office failure". Where's the "wild" come from is what I'd like to know too? El Greco 01:11, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Your source was a livejournal posting, which is not a reliable source. The sentence can be reworded, though. Ryūlóng 01:22, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Or removed completely. Ryūlóng 01:24, 13 August 2006 (UTC)


 * However, you can't exactly prove a source, this is actually a source. This person's livejournal, if it is who I believe it is, would be privy to that kind ofinformation as to whether or not a third movie was planned.RangerKing 16:04, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

You can't prove a source, but there are certain sources that are more credible than others, and some that aren't at at all. If this was a forum entry by a top level member at a well respected and recognized PR site, then yeah, its fine. If it were a live journal of someone who didn't hear the infomation through hear-say, or extrapolations, but rather actually worked on the show and used their real name, then again, it would be fine. However, all it is fan's livejournal, which isn't all that respectable. Zero X Marquis 17:17, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Steve answered that they did indeed plan to do a 3rd movie for 2000 then that was scrapped and when Time Force happened, plans were greenlighted and then 9/11 happened.
 * Where the hell do you get this stuff? Ryūlóng 23:36, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

DVD Releases
Have 5 releases been confirmed for PRMF yet? Last I heard, there might only be 3 this year. Regardless, at this point, unless they have been announced, that line should probably be editted/removed. JPG-GR 07:13, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Then be BOLD. Ryūlóng 07:15, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Gladly, but didn't want to make an edit which turned out to be wrong due to my own misremembering.JPG-GR 17:08, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Power Rangers Super Legend??!!?!?!?

the rangerboard thread: and if you try powerrangerssuperlegends.com it takes you to the jetix site buena vista also has rights to the name

Don't forget, the News Corporation-owned 20th Century Fox currently owns the DVD rights for 1995's Mighty Morphin Power Rangers: The Movie and 1997's Turbo: A Power Rangers Movie, even though Disney and its BVS Entertainment unit own the Power Rangers franchise. By the way, Disney also owns ABC Family, which was once co-owned by 20th's parent company News Corp. and Haim Saban, who founded BVS (formerly Saban Entertainment). Don-Don 01:33, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Power Rangers Super Legend??!!?!?!?
Power Rangers Super Legend??!!?!?!?

the rangerboard thread: and if you try powerrangerssuperlegends.com it takes you to the jetix site buena vista also has rights to the name
 * The domain for Relic Hunters originally forwarded to Jetix, so that's not proof for anything. I suppose Toei could've told Disney what they were planning for 2007; it's within Disney's rights to ask.  But since we know practically nothing about this at the moment, like whether that's Sentai 07/PR 08 or what, there's not much point in carrying a discussion on it right now. Arrow 20:50, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

External Links/Message Boards
I have removed external links to discussion forums as they are a violation of WP:EL. -- MakeChooChooGoNow 17:11, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Actually, several of them are not violations of WP:EL. Unless it changed, then the Message boards that are linked here are perfectly fine, as they have been around for several years and have a significant amount of posts. And those are links that should "normally be avoided". Not "Remove on sight".Ryūlóng 20:14, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

I have removed the same set of links twice as a violation of WP:EL and it's back.

My arguments for removing.

-- MakeChooChooGoNow 04:49, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
 * They are forums.
 * The forums are not a unique resource to the topic.
 * Is being promoted by a member or moderator of the forum in violation of WP:SPAM.
 * They are forums that have been on this page for much longer than you think. They have relevance. Please stop removing them. Ryūlóng 04:54, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Pilot Episode
How come there is virtually no information on this episode other than summary? I'd like to know what fight scene was deleted.
 * For information on the Pilot Episode, I would check Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. The article Power Rangers is about every series/season in the franchise and covers information relating to all of the series as a whole, not individual series. Ryūlóng 23:28, 29 August 2006 (UTC)