Talk:Power Rangers Mystic Force

TV.com as a reliable source
I have had a change negated again, stating that TV.com is not a reliable source. This is the exact quote from the editing page for the Mystic Force episode area:

"If there are episodes added here that are not listed on TV.com's page, they will be deleted and you will be warned for deliberately introducing false information into this article. "

This specifically states that TV.com is a reliable source for corroboration of an episode's status. Unless the admin changes that wording, my change can stand and should not be altered as that change itself should be considered vandalism.

Thank you.


 * The problem with using TV.com as a reliable source is that the three main people who have control over that article, and who put up the episode titles (and one of which is the one who got those titles through their press connections in the first place) rose a GIGANTIC stink here and on various PR message boards when we claimed the Operation Overdrive logo wasn't fair to use since it didn't have a reliable source. You can read the bulk of those discussions on the OO Talk page.  The episode page for MF saying that should have been changed immediately after that discussion fully ended, and why it wasn't, I'll never know. Arrow 19:11, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Exactly. It's better to use TV Guide (which is rarely wrong) and the television commercials to gauge when a new episode airs. Right now, we don't know anything about the airdate of episode 30 from a source that isn't someone who has press connections. Ryūlóng 21:15, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
 * My point is that this wikipedia page specifically stated that TV.com was a source to be relied upon as episode verification. That is until that statement was removed by Ryulong.Me 22:39, 4 October 2006 (CST)
 * And we had decided it was wrong and never had the chance to change it until you brought it to our attention. Please stop being disruptive about this. Ryūlóng 04:04, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

YYYY-MM-DD?
Why on earth is this page using such a format? In the interests of catering to our internationl readers, I always prefer to write out the entire date instead of getting into edit wars and confusion over the numerical DD-MM or MM-DD format (like if it's supposed to be March 2 or February 3). Today, however, that edit was blindly reverted (even though I had done other work, such as proseifying the damn trivia section), so I'm wondering about it. Hbdragon88 06:31, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Dynamic dates Ryūlóng (竜龍) 07:37, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Oh, and when you rewrote the trivia section you accidentally blanked several other sections in the process. Ryūlóng (竜龍) 07:40, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Well, that was strange. I guess it probably happened when I was moving the section up to be just under the synposis. Hbdragon88 08:10, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Koragg/Leanbow/Defender blah
Let's wait for this episode to air before we start putting Leanbow all over the Ranger sections and removing him from the allies sections, okay? —Ryūlóng (竜龍) 02:12, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Ok, although the promo specifically shows him morphing :/ http://youtube.com/watch?v=7QgNpFrCu_I is a link to the promo =P Myzou 05:49, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Whether or not the promo shows Leanbow morphing is not the issue. The fact is that it hasn't occured in the show, yet, and we don't know any sort of information relating to this "news". How long will it be until the ep airs, anyway? A week? Two weeks? The wiki'll be fine for another week without information that plasters Mr Leanbow all over these pages :P —Ryūlóng (竜龍) 05:55, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Episode Airdates
Sorry, can't really explain what I mean in the small area they give. The Promo for the finale stated that it would take a week starting November 6th to tell it all. Now, The Return MUST air on the 30th of October, as if the marathon starts the 6th, then chances are, it will start with the first episode again, not with a new episode. Which leaves the only open monday (as said in "The Return" Promo), the 30th., Mystic Fate may in fact air on the 13th, but as the promo said the 6th, should be put there until jetix confirms or denies it as the start of the marathon, or the airdate of the finale. If the 30th, The return does not appear, it will be changed to November 6th, as it could possibly air along with the finale, which, if the finale is confirmed to be at the end of the marathon (if there is one, and not just the finale), the date will be changed to the 13th, which would be the next logical point. Hopefully you all understand what I just wrote LOL. (Ryulong, not violating what you said, but Jetix itself released the promos, until proven false by airing on TV, we have to keep it posted, as Jetix has made a major amount of mistakes on their website before, i.e. when they post the wrong episodes, or when they posted an episode for an hour, then it was broken for like 3 days.) Myzou 23:58, 27 October 2006 (UTC)


 * New 30 sec promo confirmed the 6th is the start of the marathon and what exactly it is, and stated week long, therefore, the finale is to air on the 13th. Promo can be found here soon, as soon as it's done processing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsVmBIip4UA Myzou 04:51, 28 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Still no CONFIRMED date for The Return, but as the promo stated Monday, once monday rolls by, if it isn't then, then the date can be changed to the 6th of November, otherwise, its much more likely there was a website error then a TV Promo being aired multiple times error =P Myzou 04:54, 28 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Was Right for once xD Yay! :D Still gotta wait an hour for it to air here though -.- Myzou 03:13, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Power Ranger ethnicity

 * The team also does not feature a Black Power Ranger, a trend started in Ninja Storm.

I've removed this pending clarification: edit summaries aren't a great way to communicate. For one thing, if we're just saying "black" then doesn't the Red Ranger from Ninja Storm qualify? I can't find anything on ethnicity for Brandon Jay McLaren, who plays Jack in S.P.D. Hbdragon88 04:00, 28 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Shane is Samoan ^^;, Jack is African American, it is the Black ranger that hasn't been in since Ninja Storm, the color, not the ethnicity xD Myzou 04:38, 28 October 2006 (UTC)


 * So then it should be decapitalized. Hbdragon88 05:13, 28 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Actually, for some reason, the color of the ranger tends to be capitalized, while ethnicity is decapitalized (makes no sense, but thats how it is in article)
 * Tommy Oliver?—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 09:28, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Because it refers to a specific ranger. White and black do not refer to a specific ethnicity; Caucasian, African-American, Asian, Filipino, etc. all do. Hbdragon88 04:15, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Tommy was the Black Dino Ranger in Dino Thunder, which was after Ninja Storm. The sentence is false.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 04:35, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Recent Vandal
Sorry, just gotta ask, I just recently realized that the vandalizism of adding "Deltora Warrior" to the page is coming from multiple IPs... I'm not tech savvy so yea, which is why I'm askin =P If in the future he continues to vandalize it witht he same things, is it even possible to block him since he is using multiple IPs? :/ Myzou 23:47, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
 * It depends. I'll look into it if he starts up again tomorrow.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 03:22, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Problem solved for the Deltora Warrior and the episode dates.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 03:27, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Necrolai/Itassus/Matoombo
Posting here in case anyone doesn't like this, as without them, the rangers would've lost (not really matoombo, but was shown at end with vida), I believe they deserve to be in the allies. Also, is it safe to assume the tribunal turned Necrolai into the queen vampire, based on "We did what we had to do" from Dark Wish, after possible seeing the future and knowing what she would have to do? Myzou 22:05, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes on the Terrors, no on Necrolai.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 00:04, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Confused myself xD, So yes on those 2 terrors being in allies, but no to necrolai being there, or no to the necrolai and tribunal thing? =P Myzou 06:54, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
 * No on the tribunal, and after more thought, it'd probably be be best to leave all the characters where they are, and merely mention they have joined the other side.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 07:24, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
 * If you did that, wouldn't you have to move Leelee and the others who changed back too? :/ To keep with continuity, as She was evil at first, but then became an ally, just like Necrolai, Matoombo, and Itassus? Myzou 08:08, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Leelee switched sides earlier. Necrolai, Matoombo, and Itassus were all in the finale, more or less.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 08:12, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Still, They ended up being good just like Leelee, why would they still be labeled as Villains? :/ Myzou 19:58, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Just to clarify, Matoombo was good before, as well as Itassus, yes Necrolai was only shown to be good for 2 episodes, but we know she has been contemplating things (based on her actions towards Sculpin and such.), not to mention Leanbow was only a ranger 3 episodes, so how is 3 episodes so much bigger then 2? ^^; I understand you didnt change it, just clarifying my point. If Necrolai is moved to Villains, Leanbow should be moved to allies ^^; Myzou 00:28, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Sorry about not replying here. All three were evil until the finale, as they all were in Magiranger with similar lengths. Leanbow's transformation into a Ranger is a much more drastic change than becoming good at the last possible moment. The same characters are listed in these various positions in the articles for their Japanese counterparts. Isamu/Wolzard has entries under the Ozu Family and Infershia. Vancuria/Nai & Mea has an entry under Infershia only. Sphinx and Titan have entries under Infershia Pantheon only. Kat was only a Ranger for a single episode, and she also has her own entries as a Ranger (and an ally).—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 03:55, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
 * "Leanbow's transformation into a Ranger is a much more drastic change than becoming good at the last possible moment." Sorry, but since when was Necrolai considering settling down with Leelee in Briarwood about 20 episodes back not the beginning of something? Matoombo and Itassus were both good beforehand, which is why theyre in both, but Necrolai should be in allies. Cause as I stated before, she was showing signs of turning good WAY before the finale, people just didn't notice it. (Watch some of the older episodes, and watch her reactions to some of the orders the terrors give her.) Myzou 07:21, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I know some of this, but all of the characters are generally thought of as belonging to the single allliance that they were with most. Necrolai was with the villains for the longest time, and Itassus and Matoombo are both part of the Ten Terrors, all of which are villains. It can be mentioned that they switch sides in their respective mentions at their articles, like it is done for Magiranger (if it were possible, we could rename the Villains article so that its side neutralish, but they didn't have a name).—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 07:25, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Gotta ask, name one act of evil that Matoombo commited against the RANGERS (Leanbow was Koragg at the time he attacked him, that would constitute him being under the villains, same with Itassus, when both were asked to stop attacking they did (Yes, they convinced Itassus because she was a puppet, but still, she was asked and she stopped, not to mention without her, Nick and Vida would've been destroyed by Serpentina a few episodes back.) Why not move Nikki Pimvare to allies and leave Necrolai in villains as a compromise? Myzou 07:28, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I have not had the chance to see the episodes before the finale (I did see Mystic Fate, though). What we could use right now is some sort of unifying name for the villains of PRMF, but there was none. Similar to Infershia, which covers all side switching that existed in Magi. And there is not much that can be said about Nikki other than "Necrolai called herself this after she lost her powers and became human" I would think. It would probably be possible to give Necrolai her own article (she has enough biographical information and whatnot) and then mention there about her side switching and all of that, yet keeping her in both the villain and character categories. There is a similar discussion at Talk:Koragg the Knight Wolf about his page's status and why it remains as it is.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 07:34, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Unless I'm mistaken, they've said Underworld minions and servants multiple times, and isn't Underworld pretty much the same thing as Infershia (when talking about groups) Myzou 07:37, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Oh, I mean a canon name. They were never given one.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 07:42, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Still, I think that they should somehow be related to the allies section, if not really in there, their descriptions really don't point towards that. & about the necrolai article, I would do that, but I still don't know how to make wiki pages o.o;; (I'm an idiot like that xD) Myzou 01:00, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Just so you know, that wasn't me who edited it in, so obviously there are others who feel the way I do o.o; Myzou 04:08, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Magical Beings List
I was thinking of adding a section to the main PR: Mystic Force article showing a list of the various Magical and Mythical Beings and Creatures that are shown and mentioned in this show. There was a similar section in the article concerning one of my other favorite tv shows: American Dragon: Jake Long although the section began to grow and expand so much that it was eventually made into a seperate article on its own. I would like to know what everyone's opinions on this are Unknown Dragon 00:45, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, how many magical beings do we have?—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 00:48, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

There are quite a few, Trolls, Goblins, (Troblins) Dragons, Fairies, Titans (The Ancient and Mystic Titans and Matoombo), etc... Here's the main article that gave me the idea: List of magical creatures and characters in American Dragon: Jake Long, I was thinking of doing something similar, only on a smaller scale. So what does everyone think of this? Unknown Dragon 01:48, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Ugh... That's because Jake Long is supposed to be like that. I don't think it's necessary to have such a list for this article, as it's not the focus of the series.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 02:57, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Spelling
I was just wondering about the spelling of "Leanbow." The closed captions always have it as "Alianbow." I was just curious about which is canon.
 * In the credits at the end, his name was spelled as "Leanbow." Closed captioning had "Alianbow" and when you hear it, it's hard to figure out how it is spelt. We are going by the end credits spelling.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 22:08, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Udonna's helmet
I was watching the Mystic Force marathon, and noticed that Udonna's White Ranger helmet is a modified version of Maddie's Mystic Mermaid head. Would this be considered Trivia? Qilinmon 02:01, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Pretty sure it isn't, the White Ranger was in Magiranger long before Legend Mode, so pretty sure it was the opposite somewhat ^^; Myzou 02:45, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

No, I was referring to Maddie's Zord Form, seen below with white ranger, their helmets are the same.

180px|left|thumb|White ranger and Mystic mermaid sport matching helmets


 * Sorry bout that, by Mystic Mermaid I assumed Legend Mode (too much magiranger FTW!), but, if you notice, the top is less pointed, the eyes arent merged, and a couple other differences ^^; (which of course, just proves they aren't identical), however, I believe this is actually the first time a ranger and a zord do own a modified version of the same helmet, so feel free to add it (Unless Ryulong says no o.o;;):) Myzou 00:11, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Erm, we're avoiding trivia (and fair use images in non-article spaces :P)—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 04:05, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Calindor's Mystic Title
I was wondering as how Daggeron is the Solaris Knight, and Leanbow is the Wolf Warrior(and was the Red Mystic), what was Calindor's Mystic Title? Chris Cobb 10 November 2006
 * He was never given one ^^; He was a student of theirs, so most likely, he was still in training and didn't have "ranger" powers. Myzou 01:01, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Calindor was not mentioned as a student of Leanbow's like Daggeron, but as a trusted ally and old friend. But in the episode with the Bound Battle, he calls out "Ancient Mystic Mode!", just like Daggeron, to turn into his blue and gold form. So, they may not have mentioned it, but he would have to have one. So, does anyone have any idea of who to contact to found out what it would have been? Also, when they show video of their battle in the past, Daggeron turned into a gold energy ball, and Calindor turned into an orange one. Just wondering if anyone else caught that. Chris Cobb 01:22 12 November 2006
 * If you have to call someone in Disney, then its not at all important.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 01:37, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
 * All these other things seem so important to some people, this is just something I wondered about after seeing the show and wanted to know. So, therefore, it is important to me. Chris Cobb 23:15 12 November 2006
 * Yes, he was called a student, rewatch the episode (I THINK Gatekeeper, not sure), He SPECIFICALLY calls Leanbow and Daggeron MASTER, indicating he was a student. Myzou 07:13, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Imperious didn't show up until Long Ago. Just sayin' Grz 21:17, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Photo request
Surely someone can get a picture of the Power Rangers in action...instead of having to use a wallpaper. Hbdragon88 01:57, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
 * There is that one at Mystic Force Power Rangers. Just make another fair use thing for it.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 02:05, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I could go about capturing a picture of all 8 rangers doing the final pose in Mystic Fate if I get the time ^^; Myzou 07:14, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Give me an hour for that :P—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 07:17, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Done.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 07:26, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Was talking about the one after role call lol, Daggeron is behind the others in that one, only see like 1/4 of his helmet =P Myzou 04:07, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Just captured this one: http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/8508/untitledca9.png If you'd wanna use it instead, it has all of the rangers visible. Myzou 02:47, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Hmm... The one after the rollcall I felt was from Magi. That's why I didn't use it. I'll take a better one.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 02:48, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Mystic Mother = Rita Repulsa?!?!
I think so. IamCool316 15:47, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
 * It's true. If you notice in the scene before the Mystic Mother's appearance, Udonna says "Known as Rita in the dark days." I'm guessing she just retained her magic after Zordon's energy wave turned her to good. I wonder what happened to Zedd then?--WarriorofZarona 18:15, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
 * It's not that important. Yes, both the Mystic Mother and Rita Repulsa's Japanese live action actress is the same person, but Disney/the writers decided to make that connection even greater. What happened to Zedd isn't really that important. It's just another plothole and discontinuity.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 21:59, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
 * The Actress died in RL, I believe it was just a tribute to her, ^^;, which is why she wasn't replaced. Myzou 02:48, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

The "tribute" did more damage to the season that they were thinking, Tribunal of Magic's stature got cut down tremendously, and the Rita angle makes no sense without ellaboration. The only thing we know is that it IS Rita Repulsa after the writer of the episode confirmed that in a PM at Rangerboard with a fairly reliable fandom source Dr. R.K.Z
 * Or everyone just inferred that Udonna spoke of the only Rita in PR canon.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 22:09, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

No, Jackie Machard did confirm it through communications on Rangerboard Dr. R.K.Z


 * Rangerboard is not a reliable source, even if she had somehow been confirmed to be jackie, anyone could've impersonated her, show us proof. Myzou 11:10, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Well, I know that we all want proof, but even I am inclined to believe that it was really Rita Repulsa. Just putting that out there. - DrachenFyre &gt; YOU! 12:07, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

It is common knowledge that Jackie visted the board in 2004 and her account as been active ever since. She hasn't posted since 2004, but her account has still been active nonetheless. I want a million dollars and Britney Spears as a wife, but that doesn't mean I'm going to get it.RangerKing 22:04, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Oh FFS...

The empress of all good magic, known as Rita in the dark days...
 * How much more do you need?—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 22:28, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
 * It NEVER says that she was dark, just says that she was known as Rita during the dark AGES, which is a period of time... -.- For all we know, she was good all along :/ Myzou 13:50, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
 * It doesn't say "Dark Ages", she says "Dark Days", and I seriously doubt that they would be doing any sort of other reference to a Rita inside of PR. Additionally, there's the "You're giving me a headache!" griping connected to Rita Repulsa.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 19:46, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

ROFL, no one realized i was just trolling. I knew she was the Mystic Mother. ROFLROFLROFL Fooled Yalll IamCool316 04:32, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

And BTW, what i think. They used Rita as the former name for Mystic Mother cause they needed another tie in to the other PR series. Piggy appeared in one episode and Mystic Mother...AKA Rita Repulsa appeared in another. Now if they only make a MF/SPD team up...IamCool316 04:34, 27 November 2006 (UTC)


 * It must a continuity error that Rita Repusla was turned into a good' (meaning not evil) human in Countdown to Destruction. 216.54.173.253 01:28, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Octomus
The Master was never referred to as Octomus in the actual show, please don't change it back. An episode discription on iTunes doesn't mean that was eventually chosen for the character. That could've been an old character bio (which listed the name as Octomus) given to Disney as a sparknotes for the season and they were never given the updated version.RangerKing 22:02, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
 * He was still referred to as Octomus at some point, and that is given note in his section on the Villains article. As he was never called Octomus in the show, I agree that all mentions of him should be as "The Master".—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 19:47, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Clare
Anyways, Something I noticed when overlooking Clare's page. Why isn't she considered a Ranger on wikipedia? Yes, she was based on a heavenly saint in magiranger, but so is Daggeron. She had a normal form, a ranger form (with the robes and staff) and then a zord form (being able to grow big in her ancient mystic mode). Yes, it was only around for 2 episodes, but she fought alongside the rangers during that time, and continued to stay along with them. So why isn't she listed under rangers? This may sound bogus, but think about it, what is different from her and a ranger besides the fact her ranger outfit wasn't skin tight? >.> Leanbow never had a zord, he just grew big like her, he combined with yet another thing that just grew big, which made a sort of zord, so if Clare had combined with something, people would've called her a ranger? o.O, Also, just like Vida's "Everchanging as the wind, Pink Mystic Ranger!", She had "Power of the Shining Moon, Behold, the Gatekeeper!", the only thing she was missing was as stated above a skin tight suit (which makes no sense, as both Koragg and Daggeron didn't have skin tight suits...) and a zord form, which she technically had (The rangers just grew big and changed form like she did <.<) o.OMyzou 17:59, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Because she wasn't anything close to a Ranger in Magiranger. Her parallel, Rin/Lunagel, was just another character in Magiranger that had magical powers, and she only used them for a few episodes. She is not really a Ranger, which is why she has a listing under Other Rangers and Ranger-like allies as a Ranger-like ally along with characters such as the Blue Senturion and the original Magna Defender. If they had kept her around for a few more episodes, in either nation, then she would probably be considered a Ranger.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 18:48, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
 * What about Kat from SPD? She was there for 1 Episode, she never did anything besides morph, she never had a zord, yet people consider her a ranger because her name was Kat Ranger. Clare was the Shining Moon WARRIOR, while Leanbow is the Wolf WARRIOR, I just find it odd... She's Daggerons opposite in element lol. Just because Rin wasn't a ranger, Clare can't be considered one? I thought as you've stated multiple times around here, that PR is not entirely related to sentai, and just because it's one thing in sentai, doesn't automatically make it true in PR <.< Also, wouldn't Leanbow and Kat be under Ranger like allies instead of rangers, as they were there for 2(He wasn't morphed the entire time in Mystic Fate 1) and 1 episodes, respectively, and neither showed actual zord useage, as Leanbow only used his as Koragg. Myzou 02:20, 23 November 2006 (UTC)


 * No, Kat is a Ranger, as she was issued her Ranger Powers by SPD, Leanbow has a Mystic Morpher and his armor is designed to resemble the other Mystic Rangers. Both have morphed using Ranger morph-phrases. Clare just got a hood and a wand, she had no Ranger gear (helmet, costume, armor, or morpher) while Kat and Leanbow do. Aside from becoming a giant harem-girl, there is nothing remotely Ranger-like about Clare. NeoCoronis 02:59, 23 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Exactly how does Leanbow's armor remotely resemble spandex suits? >.> Clare had a tiara, robes, a form that was armored, and her tiara acted as a morpher. Leanbow is no more a ranger then Clare, if you give me an actual reason why, then I'll stop, yes, he did Role Call with them, but if Clare still had her powers, she probably would've too... Myzou 16:14, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Not having a skin tight suit really has nothing to do with it. That point is now moot. The Ancient Rangers of Animaria had nothing similar to a skin tight suit. Another point is moot. Clare's counterpart not being considered a ranger has no correlation to Power Rangers as they are two seperate series. Wow, three points are now invalid. Now does that make Clare a ranger? Well the definition of what a ranger is is sketchy that it's all based on personal opinion. This same question could be applied to the Blue Senturion, Magna Defender, Morgana, Daggeron, and Leanbow. However, the logic would tell you she's not a ranger. Masked Rider could be considered a ranger before Clare could be.RangerKing 21:56, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Leanbow's armor does resemble the Mystic force rangers suits, they have M's on their suits, he has a W on his armor, they have helmets with a black visor resmbling their mystic morpher symbol outlined in gold, Leanbow has a helmet with with a visor resembling his mystic morpher symbol outlined in gold. Even if Clare had her powers, she wouldn't have roll-called in the final episode because Lunagiel (the sentai character Clare's Moon Warrior form is based on) did not appear in the Japanese footage used for the final fight scene. And the biggest point, Clare has no helmet. Every Ranger in history has worn a helmet that concealed the person's face. No helmet, no ranger. That simple. NeoCoronis 01:08, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

There's been rangers, as I have said, in the past who were not the "modern" definition of what a ranger is. Just because Clare's counterpart wasn't in the footage doesn't mean anything. There was a lot of altered or new footage for that same episode. Unless Japan all of the sudden has a lot of non-Asian actors in their footage all of the sudden.RangerKing 02:37, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Clare is not a Ranger because she is merely a sorceress with the power to attain an Ancient Mystic Mode, much like Callindor could. Just because she assisted the Rangers and has an Ancient Mystic Mode along with Daggeron and Leanbow does not make her a Ranger. She is an ally to the Rangers, but not a Ranger herself. If Disney had kept the Heavenly Saints storyline, this probably would have made a lot more sense, but bear with us when we say that she is logically not a Ranger, Myzou.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 05:17, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Peta Rutter
How anyone say that Peta Rutter is the oldest Power Rangers actress when her birthdate isn't known?RangerKing 14:08, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Her birthday is known, please just look it up =D, just because wiki doesn't have it, doesn't mean people don't know it o.o;; Myzou 17:55, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Ah, I stand corrected. Though the exact date isn't known. Even those this wiki says female, she isn't the oldest person ever to portray a ranger. That honor goes to one of the actors of the Alien Rangers, who is currently 49.RangerKing 06:46, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, but that would mean that the actor was under 39 when he/she first played a Ranger. Peta Rutter would still be the oldest, if her age was known, exactly.—Ryūlóng ( 竜龍 ) 06:49, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

the spelling of Lienbow/Leanbow/Alianbow
I usually have captions on when watching TV and i watched a fairly new episode of Mystic Force and then Lianbow's name was said the caption read "Alianbow" I dont know if it was a mistake by the Caption company or whatever but every time someone spoke the name Lianbow the caption read "Alianbow."IamCool316 17:33, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
 * It was shown in the credits as Leanbow =D Sometimes captions are wrong ^.~ Myzou 17:54, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Even in the TV show its pronounced as "Alianbow", especially in episodes 31 and 31 Wisemanshade  16 January 2013
 * Christ why are you rehashing an argument from 6 years ago. The end credits have the character listed as "Leanbow". IMDB has him listed as "Leanbow". You are wrong.— Ryulong ( 琉竜 ) 11:42, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

Recent Reformatting
Ok, normally I agree with you Ryu, but, just curious, why did you reformat it to look like that? There is a main article for the rangers, which explains the stuff they enjoy and a little background about them, which makes that not necessary, not to mention you only changed certain ranger teams, so it's completely outta synch with articles like Lost Galaxy. Myzou 17:26, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
 * The tables are getting cumbersome and unencyclopedic. It's a reformat that's really needed, if we even want to think that these articles will get good or featured. The tables had to go. You can rework the short blurbs (this is mainly a retaliation against a user putting a table at a Sentai article for no good reason).—Ryūlóng ( 竜龍 ) 21:39, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Will you at least do it for more then the current 3 seasons? :/ Only SPD, Mystic Force, and Overdrive have been changed, however, the new format won't work for seasons like MMPR, Turbo, and Lost Galaxy, as they had replacements. :/ Myzou 00:23, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I have done MMPR, MMAR, and Zeo. It's a slow process, that you too can help with. I've been bugging others to help out, but they're not being all that helpful.—Ryūlóng ( 竜龍 ) 00:25, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I did what I could on Power Rangers: Lost Galaxy, hopefully it's what was wanted ^^;, The text needs help, but the main reformatting is there. If that's right, I'll try other seasons =P Myzou 06:06, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

DVD
I think guides as to which episodes of all these series have appeared on DVD would be a good addition. Since Disney isn't likely to release full season sets anytime soon, this information would be both interesting and helpful. --CmdrClow 23:36, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Magiranger similarities
Seeing as I don't know the full story of this I won't write anything in the article, but I recall reading that Disney got in a lot of trouble for following Dekaranger's plot too closely in a few episodes of SPD. On the other hand, they fully collaborated with Toei making Magiranger and this, so some of the episodes were dead similar (Stranger Within being most notable). Does anyone think any of this deserves a mention in the article? ReloadPsi (talk) 16:03, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
 * If you have a source that shows this, other than just watching the two episode side-by-side.— Ryūlóng ( 竜龍 ) 23:54, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Year of PRMF??
In what year is PRMF set?? Looking at the settings, scenary, and the fact that magic is the core base of this series, I believe it must be set in the late 20th century. The actors who portray the teenage rangers are infact 20-somethings in real life (except Angie Diaz, I think). Also can someone please explain as to why SPD was the earlier season than MF despite the fact that SPD is set way into the future? Infact shouldn't MF have been the very first season in the Power Rangers because the machinery and zords are too old and the uniforms (non-morphed and morphed) look a lot old-fashioned than in the previous seasons? Thanks59.184.133.17 (talk) 08:19, 13 February 2008 (UTC)div123
 * This is more of a question for a fan forum, as this page is intended for discussion of the content of the article and not its subject, but I will try to explain some aspects.
 * It is generally taken that Power Ranger series are set in the year that they air, unless otherwise noted in the show itself. SPD is the earlier series because it was broadcast before Mystic Force began, but SPD was set in the year 2025, while no year was stated for Mystic Force and it is assumed that the events in SPD occur after those in MF (Piggy in Briarwood and saying stuff that he will do as an alien). Series/seasons are not ordered by their internal fictional timelines, but their real world timelines. That's why it's MMPR, Zeo, Turbo, ... SPD, MF, OO, and next year's Jungle Fury. Also, it is easier to get actors who are older than the parts they portray, because of child labor laws throughout the world, and ways that the production company will have to comply.
 * To boil it down, Dino Thunder was set in 2004, SPD was set in 2025, and Mystic Force was set in 2006. However, the only show that did not match its broadcast year was SPD, because it was decided that the show would be set in the future with all the aliens and whatnot.— Ryūlóng ( 竜龙 ) 08:30, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Uh...
When did we start putting "counterpart to" in Power Ranger articles? On top of that, wasn't Octomus just a toy name, I don't recall them ever calling him Octomus in the actual show. Last time I checked, Toys produced by a secondary company do not qualify as reliable sources for Wiki. Myzou (talk) 20:09, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Unncessary linebreaks, links to non-existent articles
An IP user keeps adding inappropriate line breaks, for example here, here and here. There's simply no need for this and in the third example the user removes a complete sentence in favor of a fragment. The changes are not consistent with MOS:TV or normal standards of English, and we don't have enough information to warrant a line break. Further, the user hasn't explained their edits or opened a discussion, as would be their requirement per WP:BRD. Proposing the removal of this formatting. Also, the user keeps adding redlinks to the article, which we shouldn't be doing, per WP:REDNOT. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 19:24, 28 March 2015 (UTC)