Talk:Power Rangers Mystic Force/Archive 1

32 episodes?
Is it true that Mystic Force will only have 32 episodes? If that's the case, this will probably be the shortest FULL season of PR in the history of PR. (I didn't count Alien Rangers because they were a mini-series.) Each and every episode must be pretty good if they only have 32. I keep forgetting to sign these comments. Written at around 7:15 AM. 71.111.209.99 21:04, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, MF is only 32 episodes.

Uhhhhh......
That cast can't be right. For one.... Thuy Trang died. Andy 14:24, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

Where did that come from? 71.111.215.224 20:16, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Probably the same person that thought Amy Johnson (Kim) was going to return. Jacen Solo 13:11, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Um, no, Thuy Trang passed away in a car crash on September 3, 2001. Andrew 23:22, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Theme song links
The 2 rejected theme song links come up as 404. Any ideas on where they can actually been found, or are they lost now? Krabstarr 14:22, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

The Picture
What happened to the picture of the new rangers that i uploaded?


 * Which is it?65.115.123.226 15:34, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

3 Things
1. The morph call is "Magical Source, Mystic Force", but the SPELL is "Galwit Mysto Ranger"

2. Yes, it was a Fairy in Magiranger, but the official Mystic Force site says Vida's zord is a Butterfly.

3. The official site says "Thunderbird".


 * The official site is whack, to put it simply. since Fairy is far more likely than "butterfly" as the titanzord's name and Vida's symbol, It should be listed at the moment.


 * In Chip's case, an elemental bird seems more appropriate than a lion-bird hybrid.


 * Whatever the end result, the show itself and what's aired within it should be the deciding information source for the names used here. not sentai, toys or an extremely lacking "official site".


 * After all, this article is based on the american adaption.


 * Ace Class Shadow 21:14, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

Of course the show should be used for final information, but the official site is all we have to go by now. Besides, it's only a few more days before Code Busters premieres.

"After all, this article is based on the american adaption."

Then Fairy has no place here until it's confirmed anyway.

Well, the circle with the circles and all for the zords, says Griffen for Chip.....

I just checked, they use the Magi circle, which says Fairy and Garuda.

I watched the premeir episode; it's a butterfly. I even have it on tape.--Bedford 23:23, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

Code Busters just aired. Vida is a "Sprite", and Chip is Garuda.

Yup. That's correct. (although I think Fairy was better, but I'll never dis a PR decision :p)

I wikilinked Garuda so I can find out what that is. 71.111.215.224 22:45, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Spells
First off, I think there should be some explanation of the spells system rather than just a seemingly random list of numbers and effects. And that breings me to the reason i'm voicing my opinion now: The numbers.

I have no idea where anyone got them from, but let's not forget where the information on this page is supposed to come from. The numbers were clearly shown in show to be "1-0-7" rather than the overly simple "1-2-5". If anyone can show proof that contradicts my point, please show it. Otherwise, I'll be promptly restoring the correct code.

Ace Class Shadow 01:41, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

The spell listed on the Mystic Morpher is 125. The number for Galwit is 1. The number for Mysto is 2. The number for Prifior is 5. The fact that they used Magi footage for putting in the spell does not change the fact that the American spell is 125.

Sabrina the Teenage Witch
You know this show is a cross between bewitched and Sabrina the Teenage Witch, right? -- Eddie, Tuesday February 28 2006 at 23:34

How about you stick to bubblegum, baseball cards and The Price is Right and we'll take care of Power Rangers? All right, pal? Okay? Is that good for you? Goodie! - The Dragonmaster 04:31, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

.... Have you ever SEEN this show?


 * Hi. Instead of acting like immature fans, I was hoping someone would mention that discussion pages aren't ment for pointless chatter. Please, if it doesn't relate to improving the article, keep it to yourself.

Ace Class Shadow 20:26, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Bewitched and Sabrina the teenage which are american shows, I believe... so I very much doubt Toei would base Mahou Sentai Magiranger on it, which is what Power Rangers Mystic Force was based on Jacen Solo 06:02, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

New Episodes
Is there any source for the new episodes and summaries posted (Pop Star, etc.)?

LeeLee
I normally would try to let things like this work themselves out, but isn't it a bit harsh to list leelee as a villian? In the end, bulk, skull and even truly evil character proved to be better friends than enemies.

Ahem. What i'm trying to say is, humor aside, perhaps we should try to look beyond a couple instincts "bad" behavior. Saying she enjoys "picking on Madison" is bad enough considering that it was probably just a misunderstanding.

Everyone, and i do mean Everyone, that has a recurring role in PR as a human has eventually redeemed themself somehow.

Anyway, If there are no abjections, I'll move leelee back and "finesse" the information on her a bit.

Ace Class Shadow 00:52, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Actually, no it is not because in Episode 9, Leelee revealed herself to be a spy for Necrolai, not to mention her daughter!

Tyar 20:23, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

IP User 67.123.142.85
Okay. Is Anyone still reading these discussion pages? Well, if so, pay attention to the edits made by the user with the given IP Address "67.123.142.85". They may believe themselves to be helping, but they are actually making more work for the rest of the truly helpful and useful editors of this article and those spawned from it.

I would normally post a message like this after correctiong the damage this user or any other vandal did to a page, but i feel that i must "get the word out" about this person as i, a humble member, cannot do much more than repair the article after they are done...raping it of valuable information.

In closing, I repeat, watch for edits by this vandal and, if you can, promptly correct them. Thanks.

Ace Class Shadow 02:12, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

Tyar
I appreciate the efforts. Just don't go overboard, okay? We don't need a page for the Minor Characters on the Mystic Force Rangers. Just a suggestion. - The One and Only 02:59, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

Mystic Force Rangers article
Another article has been created called Mystic Force Rangers. See this link http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mystic_Force_Rangers&redirect=no and click on history to see what it was, I've twice now made it a redirect to this page. The content seems exactly the same as in this article, so I see no reason why we need two articles on the exact same topic. --Xyzzyplugh 02:25, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

Also, may I point out that the article Allies_in_Power_Rangers:_Mystic_Force has virtually the exact same content as the section on that topic in this article, only with a couple more sentences, thus making the article pointless and another candidate for a redirect or deletion, unless there are plans to expand the other article. (And, I personally have no problem with you guys making all the power rangers articles you want... as long as there is a purpose for them and they don't all contain the same content as the main article) --Xyzzyplugh 02:33, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

I think we should make the PRMF page like the SPD one, and just list the rangers' names, with the link to the Mystic Force Rangers article above.

Please see the administrator's comment's on the Talk:Mystic_Force_Rangers page. As I know nothing about the power rangers, I'm gonna let you all fix this situation. My solution would be to just make Mystic Force Rangers and Allies in Power Rangers:Mystic Force both redirects to this article, and I'll do that eventually if nobody else fixes this. --Xyzzyplugh 16:01, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

Problem Solved
Hey, Tyar here. The One and Only, however you are, I am just going to tell you thank you because every one else practically yells at me. Also, I have merged my articles, Mystic Force Rangers and Allies in Power Rangers: Mystic Force into this page, so I have that problem solved. All is good, right? --Tyar Don't Know the Time, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

Article Size
Wikipedia says that article is "longer than preferable". Should it be changed to be like other seasons, with a list of rangers/zords/villains and a brief description, with a link to "Villains in Power Rangers: Mystic Force" above?

I'm game, I guess. Never been a big fan of "Group" Pages, but if the main article is too big, we might as well. Ace Class Shadow 21:27, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Udonna
Please do not place Udonna in the Ranger section. She is no longer a Ranger, and there is no guarantee she will regain her Ranger powers. (left on article by 220.238.10.229 ) Dlohcierekim 01:11, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

I disagree. I think Udonna should be in the rangers and allies section. Udonna was the White Mystic Ranger, that still counts her as a ranger. It is like, uh, Tommy and the original Turbo gang, who were only in 20 episodes while the main Turbo group were in 25 episodes. They lost their ranger powers, and never regained them. But they are still considered Turbo Rangers. And presides, I heard that Bruce Kalish was debating if Udonna might make a return as a ranger in the final episodes.

Tyar 20:38, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

Well, The future is uncertain, but i think it's best we list her as a ranger. Depowered or not, she morphed and has been the only one to use the white ranger powers. And, for the record, this is also the way Ranger Central does it.

Ace Class Shadow 21:52, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

Udonna DID morph. ONCE. While I understand and respect the opinions of the many people on Wikipedia, the fact remains that is currently without her Ranger powers. Until she regains them, I think she should remain in the Allies section. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.104.52.58 (talk • contribs)

Thanks, Ace Class Shadow, for being on my side. Udonna is a ranger, and I have erased her as an ally. Now leave it alone. Tyar

Udonna WILL return as a ranger. She is in the final Magiranger episodes, and I believe is vital to the Magiranger footage. I also believe that Bruce will give her staff back early so we get some more White ranger action. Udonna should be in the rangers section Jacen Solo 06:00, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

She won't. And Koragg is the original red wizard. So please stop bitching about it. Mystic Force will use footage only from episodes prior to the Pantheon Saga and some of Wolzard Fire. I know it because I was in the filming set and I read all the scripts. By the way, Udonna morphed TWICE, and Kat and Nova were counted as Rangers despite only appearing once, so why keep discussing? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 164.77.166.229 (talk • contribs)

She will be returning. I dunno where you get the idea that Mystic Force won't be using the Hades God saga, but I assure you, it will. Korrag will turn good against one of the Hades gods (no idea how yet). I very much expect all 8 rangers to be present in the finally. and yes, Udonna morphed twice so she should be in the ranger sectionJacen Solo 20:35, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

It has been confirmed through a Japanese magnazine that Udonna will return near episode 25. It has also been shown what Daggeron looks like, and that he will debut anywhere between episodes 13-17. Legend Mode also is scheduled to debut around Episodes 15-18, and the Battlizer around 18-21. Red Koragg was also a main hit, and, according to the magnazine, will debut at about episode 21. I can't wait! Tyar 19:54, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

If you have seen the scripts can you give us the name of the Troll from Broken Spell part 1, Troll Golem from Legendary Catastros, the Fireheart Guardian from Petrified Xander and if possible the names of future monsters? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 171.159.192.10 (talk • contribs)

I am sorry who ever you are (you need to sign even if you don't have a user name) but I can't give you that info. I saw the front cover of the magnazine on another site that showed Udonna holding her Snow Staff and stuff, but the info I got was from a friend. He could have been lying himself. Maybe I shouldn't have used the word "confirmed". Those monsters probably haven't been given names by the crew of PR, anyways. Sorry! Tyar 19:44, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

My friend was wrong, but he did gave me more correct estimates. Udonna will return either in Episode 24 or 25. Legend Mode might air in the second part of Dark Wish, but if it doesn't, episode 21/22/23 for sure. The Battlizer might air on the third part of Dark Wish, but if it doesn't, it will be around the time of Legend Mode. Red Koragg is coming no sooner than episode 26. It is kind of ironic of Udonna's family tree:

24.167.173.38 04:24, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Niella is Udonna's sister.
 * Alianbow/Koragg is Udonna's husband.
 * Nick is Udonna's son, Bowen.
 * Clare is Udonna's niece.

Villains' Weapons
This section is unnecessary, the weapons can be mentioned in the villains' individual "biographies".

Jake Linedsay?
who ever is sugesting that ben is the solaris knight ranger, wake up john tui iks the solar ranger it has that info on 100 sites before posting it please cite the site that you believe this info your post is true.

Mystic Rangers Photograph
Well, I just want to say a had a bad feeling about that picture of the mystic force rangers. The user with the given IP of 80.41.93.139 removed a picture which showed the five "core" ranger actors in holding the helmets and wearing the suits of the mystic force rangers. The picture was placed in the article by the user "Bull84". Bull is not what one would called an "Honest" wikipedian and 80.41.93.139 has claimed (or at least inferred) that the picture was used without premission.

Considering all this, I move for playing it safe, respecting 80.41.93.139's wishes and keeping this photo out of the article. Ace Class Shadow 09:32, 25 March 2006 (UTC)


 * I'm just wondering, the user with the given IP of 80.41.93.139, is this the person who actually took the photo? Actually used the camera and shot the picture?  Or just a person who saw the picture first in the net and has braging right of getting it first?65.115.123.226 18:19, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
 * We can't really be certain at this point, but the picture is a copyrighted one supposedly available for usage by the press only (it and two similar pictures came from a press-access Disney website). So regardless of who put it up, it's probably still illegal to use without their permission. Arrow 00:30, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I see... That make sence, thanks.65.115.123.226 15:06, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Shortening the Article
Hey, Tyar here. Just wanted to say I shortened most of the articles, such as the Allies, Zords, and Villains, becuase apparently our article is a bit too long. Guess we will have to put the main stuff on other pages, which I have done.

Vampires
Is this the first time the Rangers have fought Vampires? If so wouldn't that go under trivia?

Answering in order: Probably not. Some of the more Nazi-esq editors seem insistant on keeping new additions to the trivia down. Even if the rangers never faced vampires before, it wouldn't last a day on the list. Ace Class Shadow 02:28, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Was Vipra a vampire or what? Thats what she seemed to me. Jacen Solo 05:54, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

The thought of Vida being a vampire was so scary, I thought about missing it. Will the spell finally be broken? 71.111.215.224 14:44, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Yes, in the next part :)... It would be too "scary" for kids if a hero remained a Vampire. IMO, it's a great plot. Be warned (trying not to spoil) but Vida will fight against the rangers next episode :) Jacen Solo 03:12, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

Vipra was a Reptilian or Snake demon, as i recall. Maybe a dragon. Definitely not a vampire in the traditional sense. And guys, keep in mind that this page is meant for discussing changes to the article, not the plot of the TV show. Ace Class Shadow 06:32, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

OK, then let's write down that it was the first time a Ranger has been transformed into a vampire. 71.111.215.224 13:26, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Hey, last thing i'd want to do is hold anyone or anything back, I'm just saying that the forces that be might remove what they don't consider worthy of being listed. Rock on and good luck. Ace Class Shadow 20:37, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

The Rangerverse has dealt with vampires before. Anyone remember the Power Rangers Turbo episode 'Carlos and the Count'?. In it, Carlos got turned into a vampire, and Im pretty sure he fought the Rangers at some point. Its been a while since Ive seen any of the Turbo series so I could be wrong about him fighting his team-mates. Chebo 14:43, 18 April 2006

You are correct, sir. Ace Class Shadow 05:44, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

Seal or shield?
To me, on the show, it sounsd like "Acient power, Mystic Spell Shield" (and makes more sense then seal)... Can someone confirm or deny this? Jacen Solo 03:39, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

It's "Seal". It's a circle with a special imprint to signify something. Plus it's an offensive attack, so shield would be kind of misleading. 63.204.72.220 20:13, 5 April 2006

Makes sense, Thanks. But sheild's (like Ethans) can be offensive Jacen Solo 05:51, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

The Tricera Shield is a bit different. The significance of the symbols is all their magic combined. They cut through the seal, effectively a charger for their sword, and attack the monster, leading to its swift destruction every time so far.

The Tricera Shield was rarely used to it's fullest capabilities and never cut through or used like...say...Koragg's. Well, maye a few times, but it;s definitely not the same thing.

Phew. I think i just bent the "Talk Pages aren't for fantalk" rule a bit. Ace Class Shadow 06:13, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

Terminology
Okay. The constant edits to force one person's ideal terms on the article must stop. First off, "Solar(is) Knight (Ranger)". "Solaris" is a fake word. Sorry. "Solar" is more appropriate in this case. "Knight" might seem like enough of an identifying term, but it's not. For all intents and purposes, The full name should be "Solar Knight Ranger". No confusion.

Next up, Hidiacs versus Morlocks. It was originally thought that the foot soldiers were the Morlocks. This changed when the first two episodes debuted together. Now, it is believed the army as a whole are the Morlocks. This makes the most sense as well. Referring the villains as the "Hidiac army" based solely on the fact that the Hidiacs make up the majority of the army is still a bit foolish, i think. There are also several Styxoids waiting in the wings and various monsters yet to be seen. Maybe even more trolls. Best we just refer to them all as "Morlocks" unless a different general term is used in the show.

I'm now going to edit the article accordingly. Ace Class Shadow 20:19, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

I will leave the title of the Solar Knight Ranger's morpher "Solaris" as it's less redundant. Ace Class Shadow 20:24, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Solaris... I wonder where people came up with that. Solar Knight ranger or just Solar Knight or Solar Ranger will do. Solaris... I can't figure it out. Solaris is a real word BTW, Ace. Jacen Solo 20:42, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

First off, please don't say "Solar Knight or Solar Ranger will do." It looks like you disagree with the decision i've reached and complicates the situation.

As for "Solaris" it is a fictional word as it has no meaning. It's just used often because people think it's "cool" or "looks pretty". As an official identifier for a ranger, however, it doesn't fit. Personally, I'd like to call Daggeron's ranger form "Solight Ranger" or "Solight Knight", but until otherwise stated, his name needs to be "Solar Knight Ranger" as it best decribes the character in terms of appearance. So, it's key that we use a word or words with definition(s) to describe an unnamed Ranger form.

Ace Class Shadow 21:12, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Anbody willing to bet that the "Solar Knight Ranger" name will have been changed when he shows up in the series? I mean, Wolf King Megazord became Centaurus Wolf Megazord, among other changes. I guess we'll just have to wait and see... Chebo 23:24, 12 April 2006

Possibly. That's why we need to use general designations now rather than fight over the most popular "fan's name". Ace Class Shadow 18:52, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Guys, the name is "Solaris Knight." Observe: http://www.collectiondx.com/gallery/NewsImages/Bandai/2006/MMPRSpring/Solaris+Knight.jpg.htmlJoeTBF13
 * Show me the box art which specifically states "Solaris Knight" and I will concede the point. Until then, all indication currently point to him being named "Solar Knight". - The One and Only 17:06, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Here we go. Proof of the name being Solaris Knight. http://img230.imageshack.us/my.php?image=solarisknight2oe.pngJoeTBF13
 * You are SO behind...God. - DrachenFyre &gt; YOU! 22:31, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Forgive us for not taking what we see on a forum as infallible dogma. Actually, just forgive us for not wasting all our time at Rangerboard. Okay, kid? ACS (Wikipedian) 23:33, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

It's still a cool figure, though. Ace Class Shadow 18:37, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

According to the pictures shown in that Japanese magazine with all those spoilers and the Battlizer, the name for the American Magishine is Solaris Ranger. See top left corner, the full group picture. I'm changing it. Chairoguma 16:04, 3 May 2006 (UTC) Just noticed, a center team picture also has Daggeron listed as Solaris Ranger. Just for the record. Chairoguma 16:16, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Guys, Soul Specter has just aired online (that's three episodes with Daggeron) and he calls himself SOLARIS KNIGHT, POWER UP! Its Solaris Knight whether you like it or not Ace Class Shadow.

Tyar 02:34, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

NEW FUTURE EPISODES
I found these at imdb i don't know if they fake or not

Season 1, Episode 17: Ranger Down /Date: ????

Season 1, Episode 21: Koragg's Trial /Date: ????

Season 1, Episode 22: Heir Apparent /Date: ????

Season 1, Episode 23: Heir Apparent II /Date: ????

if any believes that these are real please send a link to prove it so I can post it

We try not to use IMDB for information because the vast majority of it, particularly in regards to Power Rangers, is false. And, please, sign your comments using four tildes. - The One and Only 16:17, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

Still think it's fake one of those is true "Ranger Down" so maybe the rest is true - User: LeafGreen Ranger 12:55, 18 May, 2006 (UTC)

Other Spells
I motion that the "Other Mystic Ranger Spells" and "Other Koragg Spells" be removed, since they're just attacks, and not actually spells. 63.204.74.8 21:55, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

What are any of the spells other than simple abilities? A spell to combine? A spell to morph? (that they'll apparently never say). Whatever we think, they're specifically described as spells in-show. As a whole, they deserve to be listed. Our hands are tied. Ace Class Shadow 22:10, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

Daggeron
Does anyone know when Daggeron, the Solar Knight Ranger (MagiShine) will air? Three different sources say episode 14. One even said its name "Solaris Rising parts 1 and 2", but I think that is fake for A, that "Terminology" discussion and B, that site had incorrect names for episodes that already aired. I heard one of you guys is part of the filming set, can you confirm when he will appear? Thanks, I am just eager. And oh, I think we should erase Daggeron from "Mystic Force Rangers" because A, we don't know if that is his name, B, because he hasn't debuted, and C, he will probably end up having so much info we will have to do a page specifically about him. Tyar 18:46, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

<.<

Wow. Okay, first off, you are so right about those episodes being fake. Someone called Poweranimals has taken it upon themselves to "inform" us. However, that said user has not denied that the information he listed is false. I have also found out from an administrator that he has history of this sort of behavior on this and several other sites. He even hacked a message board, causing the Administrator, Ray Calderon, to create a brand new board on with a different domain name. The other users trying to pass these titles off as factual have similarly suspicious reputations. It's just a bad scene.

And someone from the production crew coming to the wikipedia page? Highly unlikely. Such behavior isn't recommended at best and at worst grounds for termination of employment. Don't be quick to believe someone you've come into contact with just happens to work with the team behind a Fiction form of entertainment you're interested in. Comics, TV, Movies, Et Cetera. Especially if they offer no proof and/or bring it up to convince you that they are correct about something. ("Trust me. I work for {[Random Business]}")

As for Dag specifically, I wouldn't say "we don't know". It's just that the information we have is subject to change, like the template indicates. If we're in agreement about him appearing and having a fairly big role, the other stuff will fall into place. I will say that we cannot simply remove the information at this point. Admittedly, it's not confirmed per se, but the basics (which is all we really have) are likely to correct. I wouldn't say, however, that Daggeron is likely to get own article. Articles for single characters are largely based on the interest of a Wikipedian and/or Wikipedians. Koragg and Nova Ranger articles are good examples of this. Currently and understandably, there is no redirect for "Daggeron" or any of the other rangers. Thus, if we remove him, he'll likely just be placed back there soon afterwards. That would undoubtably lead to a debate and, from my experience, debates rarely result in the creation of new articles. Ïurthermore, the section fits him as it does the other rangers listed. Should a page for him be made, The Mystic Force Rangers article would still need to list his name and link to his main article just as the Villains page has done with Koragg.

So, to put it simply, Daggeron should stay where he is at the moment. If someone feels the need to and successfully does create an article for him, all in-depth information about him shall be moved there and the other pages that list him will simply give a short summary and link to his article. Ace Class Shadow 18:57, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

Fire Heart
It's not a weapon; why put it under arsenal? 67.121.139.145 03:48, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

It hasn't been shown to be anything more. The dragon won't likely be a zord, either. Should it be intelligent, it'll be moved to "Allies". Surely you recall cases of living weapons before. Omega Ranger? Ha ha. Ace Class Shadow 04:08, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

I have removed the Fire Heart from the Arsenal section, under the reasoning that it hasn't been seen to be anything other than the last remaining Dragon Egg and obviously an item of great power. Should it turn out to actually be a weapon (i.e a Battlizer) then it deserves a place in the section. 211.29.228.204 - 00:34, 28 April 2006

Ha. A GIPU...telling me. That's...humorous. Alrighty. Here's the thing, it will not be a battlizer. Simply put. Mentioning that...you're from Rangerboard, huh? Well, it's too early and right after the Mystic Force Fighters. I know PR (and bruce) have introduced things faster in recent seasons, but that would just be stupid and highly unlikely. Expect the battlizer after daggeron, at the earliest. That's how it's done. Now, tell me, how is the "Xenotome" a weapon? Mystic Racers? I don't do things on a whim. The addition of the Fire Heart was never questionable in my mind. Now, if someone successfully separates "Non-Weapons" from "Weapons", that's their bag. Anyway, I'm reverting your edits (though you might have a point with the Snow Staff). Next time, try to be a bit less big for your britches. This isn't a big deal, even in the unlikely event you were right about something, immediate action isn't always necessary. Gees.

My apologies. I never intended to come across as "big for my britches" as you put it. I would like to implement the "Weapons/Non Weapons" suggestion, as that seems like a suitable idea. 211.29.228.204 - 14:09, 28 April 2006

Go for it. Sorry. I might have been a little defensive. And sorry I took so long to respond. I've been...wrapped up in a new project. The Anti-Gnome 06:22, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

Its ok, mate. I can understand where you were coming from. Anyhow, Ive listed the Magi Staffs, Snow Staff and Mystic Force Fighters under "Weapons", and the rest under "Non-Weapons".

I also wish you all the best in this new project of yours :) 59.167.82.80 - 10:12, 28 April 2006

What is Nick?
I know his actor is australian, but acording to [|The Ranger Files], he is asian. He dosent look asian to me, but if he is, that would make him the first ofical asian red rangers (Eric Myers & Charlie arent ofical red rangers), and make Power Rangers Mystic Force the first power ranger series without an african american or native american ranger. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.1.77.7 (talk • contribs)

>.>

Uh...you're a little off. Charlie and Eric are reds, though I've never heard of them being asian. I think the actor is middle eastern. Nick himself, as with the other Rangers (with the possible, exceot of John Tui's Daggeron, of course) is probably being played as caucasian. Though, after the Zordon era and the disney take over, ethnic origin for actors, like alone characters, is sometimes an iffy and dolicate subject. Furthermore, this is the second season without a black guy/girl, unless they play Dag as such. Shane wasn't black, though casting probably hoped people wouldn't care/notice. ACS (Wikipedian) 05:29, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

I dident say they werent reds I said they werent OFICIAL reds. You know what im saying? Also I know Shane Is native american. Im saying that this would be the first power ranger seson without an african american or native american ranger. Shane Is native american Right? Ah who cares.

He was samoan, though it's often debated by the uninformed. As far as the U.S. and producers aree concerned, Eric is a Red Ranger. If by "official" you mean "normal" then I suppose not, but really, that's a bit unnecessarily specific. Charlie was a Red Ranger. Antagonist? sure, but her powers and team were official and made (or modified, if you believe they came from the astro morphers) SPD. That's not really up for debate. Being evil doesn't have much to do with Ranger status. Powers and sources are really what count. Hunter's the truly debatable one, honestly. ACS (Wikipedian) 19:59, 9 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Sigh* never mind. Acording to [|The Ranger Files], the "Solaris Knight" is not asian. I saw what his actor looked like, but I thought he was asian. so power rangers Mystic force cant be the first without NA or AA ranger.

Also, Charlie was an amerecan made ranger and she dident apear in much episodes. So she cant be a ofical red ranger.

I don't think Charlie should be classified as a red ranger, but it doesn't matter if she is American-made!

Arsenal (order, describptions and titles)
Hey. I notice there's been a lot of activity with the "Arsenal" section. I'm thinking one way to curve unnecessary edits would be to list all the items alphabetically. In fact, I'll do that now. If there are any objections, please voice them here (first). ACS (Wikipedian) 07:30, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

I think the Arsenal section should be listed as follows


 * Morphers
 * Weapons (Magi-Staff, Mystic Force Fighters, etc)
 * Vehicles
 * Power-ups
 * Other Items (Xenotome, Fire Heart)

I think it should be listed as such, as an alternative to the alphabetical idea. Im only suggesting is all. Chebo) 05:34, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

Hmm. I thank you for your corrections, but I'm not sure I can agree with that order. I don't think we can justify that. Nearly everything acts as a weapon, don't you think? We could make a "Morpher" and "Vehicles" such, but that would only include maybe two or three times each. Then, if those dragon wings on the battlizer are, in fact, fly capable, the vehicle section would be screwed. Then there's Udonna's Snow Staff. Wouldn't that count as her morpher? Still, I see your point. I'll separate the vehicles such for now and hope for the best. ACS (Wikipedian) 08:18, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

Zord Page
Hey, Tyar here again. After a lot of disagreements and problems, I think the main Mystic Force page looks wonderful. This should go on the discussion page of Zords in Power Rangers: Mystic Force, but I think more people look at this one more. The Zord Main Page really needs a cleanup. I would do it myself, but I don't have time currently. I mean, looking at a lot of these zords or Titan Forms, there are only bad-worded phrases. Please, for the items that haven't aired, fine, but for the Mystic Titans and Catastros, we really need to clean up.

Tyar 19:56, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Don't Spoil this Great page
I had to go back and make all of the corrections on the site, because someone went and made a mess of it like changing Necrolai to Necrolia, making Koragg a ranger, before he might turn red, and changed the names of the monsters. Please do not do this again!

To whomever made those bizarre edits, lets get a few things straight just for future reference...


 * Morticon is NOT called Cybergon.
 * The Mystic Racer is not a motorcycle. Likewise, the Mystic Racers aren't called Mystic Riders.
 * Since when are the Magi Staffs called "Mystic Staffs"?. Likewise, i have listed Nick's weapon as a SWORD, not a "Striker".
 * Daggeron is already listed as the Solaris Knight. Let's please try to keep him that way. Likewise, I have changed the name of his morphing device to simply "Solaris Morpher" because it is the name the device was originally listed under, and there seems to be no official name for his morphing device. Various change include "Solar Cell Morpher" and "Solar Knight Morpher".
 * There is currently no indication (in Mystic Force atleast) that Daggeron's morpher activates his weapon.
 * Koragg is not a Ranger. Not yet anyway.
 * Also, if you're going to add MF's Dialrod counterparts, may I suggest naming them "Legend Staffs"?
 * Lastly, Skullington is NOT! I repeat NOT!!! called "Skeletron!

I do not wish to be flamed for this or anything. I am merely trying to do my part in keeping the peace in this article. That is all. I know wrtiers on the show sometimes screw up names, but these edits are very noticable. I have gone back and changed all the edits. Chebo 6:34 AM, 5 June 2006 (EST)

It has come to my attention that, according to an anonymous editor, the toy version of Daggeron's morpher is called the Solar Cell Morpher. Can anyone confirm this? Chebo 6:45 AM, 5 June 2006 (EST)

http://img330.imageshack.us/img330/770/picture0063co.jpg 67.123.141.135 21:01, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Thankyou. Neat pic by the way :) Chebo 7:05 AM, 5 June 2006 (EST)

I'm Getting Tired!
Someone has gone again and made errors on PURPOSE! Jenji is not Jenius. Mystic Force Fighters, not boxers! Imperious not Egirptra. MORTICON IS NOT CYBERGON! Necrolai is not Vampira. Skullington is not Skeletron. This is getting really irritating! Please STOP!

Rock Solid
Our article is longer than preferable again, and I think it is because of the Spells Section. We need to shorten it somehow, maybe just erasing everything and putting all the spells and names on a new page. AND SOMEONE NEEDS TO FIX THE MYSTIC TITAN ARTICLES ON THE ZORD PAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tyar 21:47, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, I erased that other information because it wasn't that important.

Long Ago
Will the episode Long Ago premiere? Because on the commercials, it shows previews of the episode Inner Strength, which will be on briefly Jetix.tv

Long Ago and Inner Strength are airing in a 1 hour block on Monday.63.205.198.198 21:34, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Originally they were airing a promo for the two-parter special on Monday showing footage only from "Inner Strength", but now (it is Friday) I saw a promo for the two-parter special that only showed footage from "Long Ago".

Tyar 02:00, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Ranger Down = Jealous Genie
I heard on Rangerboard that the listings for Ranger Down called it Jealous Genie. I'm not sure how credible it is though.

Octomus?
Someone put down the Master as Octomus or something like that. How do you know that is his name? I have erased it anyhow.

Tyar 15:14, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

On iTunes, the description for Scaredy Cat says "Imperious is brought to life by Octomus", therefore, The Master = Octomus 63.205.198.198 16:09, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Bowen
I don't think Nick should be called Bowen until it is confirmed on an episode! Can someone stop putting Alianbow and Bowen on the Allies!

SPD?
Is there any confirmation on an SPD/Mystic Force team up episode?
 * Not yet, no. But considering there was a Magiranger vs. Dekaranger special in Japan, it is very likely that the footage will be used for a Mystic Force/SPD team up.  And please remember to sign your comments with ~ . Ryulong 00:56, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Power Rangers has only used footage from Sentai teamups twice, Zeo and the Alien Rangers (OhRanger vs. KakuRanger) and LG/LR (Gingaman vs. GoGoV). There may be a team up, but it is highly unlikely they will buy Magi vs. Deka footage.63.205.198.198 22:50, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Well, since Piggy had a cameo appearance in Ranger Down, it looks like there just might be an SPD team-up. 12.37.71.134 16:44, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Now that I think about it, it would be fairly difficult to get an SPD/Mystic Force team up, because they would have to get Jack back into SPD somehow, unless it's another time-travel/mind-erasing adventure. Ryulong 03:19, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

That's probably what will happen if they do do a team-up. 12.37.71.142 03:50, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

It wouldn't be that hard, Ryulong. If Jack's friends, espcially Z, were endangered by Gruumm he would return no bones about it. Just look at early episodes of S.P.D. with how concerned he was for Z. And a brief scene with Sky, Jack, and Bridge exchanging morphers would take, what two seconds?--RangerKing 06:40, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

STOP THE VANDALISMS!
People are doing vandalisms AGAIN!. STOP!


 * The Laser Lamp is not called Mystic Lamp Solaris Mode!
 * Its Mystic Speeder, not Mystic Racer
 * They are Mystic Racers, not Riders
 * Mystic Fighter is the BATTLIZER?
 * Xander called the mode Mystic Muscles, not MUSCLE FORCE
 * Its Magi Staff, not Mystic Staff, and Wand Mode is a better term than "Baton" Mode
 * Mystic Fighters, not Mystic Boxers
 * Its Solar Cell Morpher (as stated in Long Ago and up) not Solaris Morpher
 * Its not Mystic Force Megazord, TITAN MEGAZORD
 * Mystic Dragon or Titan Dragon but NOT Mystic Force Dragon
 * Knight Wolf Centaur, not Knight Centaur
 * Centaurus Wolf Megazord, not Dark Force Megazord
 * Centaurus Phoenix Megazord, not Flame Phoenix Megazord
 * Solaris Train not Solar Streak Train
 * Steedergon or Mystic Unicorn, but not Unicorion
 * Light Phoenix Megazord?, I Think we should just go with Steedergon Fury Megazord

THAT IS SIXTEEN MISTAKES ON PURPOSE!!!!!!!!!!!!

STOP YOU VIOLATORS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I will go on fix it but here is a list of possible users who did this as a checked this site at 12:00 midnight (Eastern Time) and it was all good. So here is a list of suspects of violators:


 * (cur) (last) 20:10, 15 June 2006 201.19.92.173
 * (cur) (last) 20:01, 15 June 2006 201.19.92.173
 * (cur) (last) 19:46, 15 June 2006 201.19.92.173
 * (cur) (last) 19:46, 15 June 2006 Unknown Dragon (→Villains)
 * (cur) (last) 19:46, 15 June 2006 Unknown Dragon (→Villains)
 * (cur) (last) 19:45, 15 June 2006 Unknown Dragon (→Villains)
 * (cur) (last) 19:42, 15 June 2006 201.19.92.173
 * (cur) (last) 19:22, 15 June 2006 201.19.92.173
 * (cur) (last) 18:09, 15 June 2006 69.156.103.82 (→Episodes)
 * (cur) (last) 14:02, 15 June 2006 71.68.13.79 (→Mystic Force Power Rangers)
 * (cur) (last) 14:00, 15 June 2006 71.68.13.79 (→Trivia)
 * (cur) (last) 13:59, 15 June 2006 71.68.13.79 (→Trivia)
 * (cur) (last) 05:59, 15 June 2006 Ryulong m (→Trivia - grammatical fixes)
 * (cur) (last) 05:35, 15 June 2006 ShadowRanger

SO LETS CATCH THESE FREAKS!

Come on Ace Class Shadow, The One and Only, Chebo!

Let's catch these site ruiners NOW!

Tyar 20:16, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

THE VANDALISER is CAUGHT
Hey, Tyar here. While I was trying to fix the vandalism problems, someone was on the site at the same time and changed them back! According to the "History Page", the last person to an edit was: 201.19.92.173! Lets go and catch this crook!

If you are reading this, STOP IT NOW OR YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO FACE AN ADMINISTRATOR!

Tyar 20:23, 15 June 2006 (UTC)


 * The next time he vandalizes, use the warning template test3, and if he does it again, use test4. If he does it again after you give him the test4 template, list him at WP:AIV. Ryulong 21:01, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
 * In fact, I'll give him the first warning, test3. Ryulong 21:32, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, Ryulong.

Tyar 21:49, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

My edits to "Alianbow"
While I was watching the episode Soul Specter through Jetix's website, I am sure that I heard "Lianbow" and not "Alianbow" when Daggeron spoke his name. For this reason, I deleted the "A" in the character's name. Unless there is evidence that the character is named "Alianbow" and not "Lianbow" the character's name should stay as it is heard. To view this episode, go to the video section of Jetix's website, click on the Mystic Force helmet, and view the episode in question (one can skip to the final scene where the name is mentioned by dragging the video feed to the end of the first two portions of the episode, as the final scene is a third part to the video uploaded [when one part of the video ends, the next one is loaded and begins, and there are three parts to this episode's video]). Ryulong 08:38, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Closed captions say "Alianbow".63.205.196.78 14:07, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

All the other sites (like tv.com) call it Alianbow and Daggeron didn't really prounonce it clear. However in Long Ago, it is clearly said "ALIANBOW". So I think we should go by that and since hearing the words on TV is easier to hear and clearer then online, once Soul Specter premieres Monday, we can make our final decision.

Tyar 14:42, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Okay, if Closed Captioning has it as "Alianbow", then it more than likely is "Alianbow" (even though closed captioning can be horribly wrong at times). I was just going by what I heard, and I didn't hear an A at the beginning. Ryulong 18:56, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

I just watched Long Ago on the ABC Version of the Spells and Steel Marathon (I have Toon Disney too) and both Udonna and Daggeron clearly said:

A-LI-AN-BOW

So it is Alianbow. Tyar 18:19, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

I apologize that I heard wrong, still. Ryulong 20:03, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Actually I watched Soul Specter and I only heard "Lianbow". So maybe you are right. But still, it might be a computer thing. Tyar 20:26, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

I just wanted to point out that tv.com and other such sites are user-submission sites just like Wikipedia, so it would all come down to how everyone heard it for those. But yes, closed-captioning, despite being wrong occasionally, is good enough to trust when it seems to match what's heard, like in this case, so I think "Alianbow" is good to leave it as. Arrow 00:10, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
 * That is, until Koragg is turned good, again. And the name is mentioned in either the opening or closing credits. Ryulong 00:15, 21 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Hmm... There doesn't seem to be a consensus anywhere on his name.  Rangerboard uses Alianbow, Alainbow, Lianbow, Lienbow, and a slew of others.  Alianbow and Lianbow seem to be the more popular ones. When Soul Specter is on, again, someone with Closed Captioning will have to see what is used. Ryulong 04:08, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

I put on closed captioning, and it said Liambo. 12.37.71.158 18:38, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Same here. My closed captioning said "Liambo," too. Ryulong 04:30, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Mystic Force Movie Director
I can't seem to find the place at jetix.tv where you can direct your own video. Does anyone know where that is? 71.111.232.40 13:41, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Please only use discussion pages for discussion about the article and how it can be improved. This is not a fan forum.  If you want one of those, try this. Ryulong 17:02, 21 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Try bandai.com.

Manticore?
It says that the Legend Firebird and Lion combine to form the Manticore Megazord. Is there any confirmation on this? Because I thought it was called the Legend Megazord. 12.37.71.158 18:39, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
 * There was a photograph of either boxes for the new toy line or a poster for toys in the new toyline. MagiLegend was shown as the Manticore Megazord. Ryulong 20:36, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Here's a picture, for the record. Arrow 03:15, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Also Linear Ranger's website calls it Manticore.

Tyar 21:44, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, fansites aren't that notable, but there is print media that shows that it is the Manticore Megazord. Ryulong 22:03, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Cameo
I just saw the latest episode and saw that person, do you think it's okay to put in the artice?Nauto 00:29, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
 * It's listed already. See the Trivia section. Ryulong 00:34, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I just saw it, it was added to the trivia about Barney Duncan.
 * "Barnie Duncan returns for a second consecutive season, this time free of make-up, as Toby, the Rangers' boss at the Rock Porium. He has a cameo appearance in Ranger Down as his previous role, Piggy, from Power Rangers: SPD. "
 * My bad for missing it...Nauto 07:07, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Team Leader
Shouldn't Nick be listed as Second team leader and Xander as first team leader, since Xander was the team leader before Nick accepted his duties. --23:02, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Technically, that happened for a portion of the first episodes. The Red Ranger is nearly always the leader, and it was meant to be such in Mystic Force, even if he didn't accept his responsibilities until he was needed. I will add "second in command" for Xander's row, as that is how it appears to be in this case. Ryulong 23:08, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Odd...that fact and team leader are absent from the table. Ryulong 23:08, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Succession Box
Do we need the succession box for the season since we have the Power Rangers template at the bottom?
 * The pages for Super Sentai have both a succession box and a template listing all series. I am emulating that format here. Ryulong 21:32, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Here's an example. Ryulong 21:34, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

Theme Song
I posted the theme song on the page and someone took it off. and by the way, subtites say that the it is yo, not go! Candyo32 00:03, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, it isn't really that necessary. The MMPR page doesn't have the "Go Go Power Rangers!" lyrics on the page, and very little other articles have theme songs in the article space. Ryulong 00:22, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

I think it is sensible that they do not have the "Go Go Power Rangers Song, because that is mostly what they say! Candyo32
 * Still, other articles do not include the theme song. It is generally not encyclopedic. Ryulong 03:08, 1 July 2006 (UTC)