Talk:Power forward

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...of the term is largely missing. The term "power forward" was invented in the '70s and first applied to a certain 6'10" Milwaukee Buck whose name escapes my memory, but I remember him being interviewed at the time and expressing pleasure in the invention and application of the term to him (by his coach, iirc). The guard positions weren't distinct either. Anyway, even in retrospect there's little reason to call Dave DeBusschere, e.g., a "power forward", as the article does. He may have gotten more rebounds than Bill Bradley (not hard), but he was just a forward and there was nothing about his game that said "center". Nowitzki's a pure small forward -- Avery Johnson's failure to understand that was the reason for the Mav's debacle against the Warriors in the first round that year they had the best record in the league. Pettit and Lucas are a different matter - but they played a lot of center. In the center-forward pairs the article lists... the one(s?) that include Bynum (and maybe Sampson?) include only one (the other guy). nb: Nate Thurmond briefly played forward with Wilt...but that didn't make him a power forward, just an out-of-position center. (Wayne Hightower didn't have good "small forward" skills, to use a similarly anachronistic term, either, which contributed to the resultant disaster.) Anyway, the main point of this note is to suggest a line of research to add the invention of the term, which I don't have time for right now. Andyvphil (talk) 21:51, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

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 * I see the deletionist crew have been at work, hiding most of this article's content in the memory hole. They are a disease, not the only one Wikipedia suffers from, but a serious one. Andyvphil (talk) 08:11, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
 * The Buck I mention, is I believe, the then Don Smith (Zaid Abdul-Aziz), who played two seasons for the Bucks. Basketball Reference (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/a/abdulza01.html ), lists him as a center for '68-68 and PF for '69-70, so perhaps the term's invention dates to the latter season. Andyvphil (talk) 19:14, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

a — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:82:8201:CF20:B456:B495:94EA:E4F5 (talk) 16:27, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

More sources
https://www.thehoopsgeek.com/average-nba-height/

talks about all positions and their average height with the total playtime to height with a comparison over time. Aidank02 (talk) 00:53, 13 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Not sure that is a reliable source. —Bagumba (talk) 03:11, 13 December 2022 (UTC)

Requested move 19 October 2023

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The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Skarmory   (talk •   contribs)  00:58, 27 October 2023 (UTC)

– I think that the basketball position is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. First, there is a huge discrepancy when it comes to the pageviews. Since 2015, the ice hockey position averages only 43 views daily and never even had 500 views in a day; meanwhile, the basketball position averages almost 800 views daily. Second, there are 8,000+ articles linking to the basketball position, compared to the 67 for ice hockey, which is probably not a surprise because PF is a primary position in basketball, while the PF is just a "loosely applied characterization of a forward" in ice hockey. Lastly, with a simple Google search of the term "power forward", it's almost impossible to find anything about ice hockey. '''Engr. Smitty  Werben''' 23:05, 19 October 2023 (UTC) The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
 * Power forward (basketball) → Power forward
 * Power forward → Power forward (disambiguation)
 * Comment The dab links' respective page views are here.—Bagumba (talk) 04:33, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Support Meets WP:PRIMARYTOPIC based on views and page links.—Bagumba (talk) 04:33, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Support It does appear to be a clear primary topic. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 13:35, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Support per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC Rikster2 (talk) 14:06, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Support per nom, particularly PF is a primary position in basketball, while the PF is just a "loosely applied characterization of a forward" in ice hockey (as well as page-view data). Walt Yoder (talk) 21:21, 23 October 2023 (UTC)