Talk:Powertrain

Rename proposal
I'dsf be somewhat in favor of renaming this to Driveline, as that seems slightly wider used, but per Google, they're somewhat even, so I'll wait in case others agree. Also, I marked this for &#123;{cleanup}} as the bottom half of the article could either use some extra explanation, or should be moved to a separate article, or something (I admit I don't understand it well). --Interiot 03:28, 8 December 2005 (UTC)


 * I think if driveline is only slightly wider used, it may as well stay here and have driveline redirect here if it doesn't already, and use both terms in the first sentence ... —Matthew Brown (T:C) 04:16, 8 December 2005 (UTC)


 * Well, it depends on how you search. In google groups, for instance, drivetrain is used 65% more often, which is somewhat of a big gap.  I was just hoping some expert who knows better than I would come along and clarify a bit more.  --Interiot 19:01, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

Proposed merger with two-wheel drive and drive wheel
I don't think any of these articles are expansive enough to warrant separation. Until such time that there is enough content to necessitate a split, I think all of these articles are better off being combined so that they are not so stub-like. Ham Pastrami 08:45, 9 October 2007 (UTC)


 * No particular opinion so far as the merge goes, but so far as terminology goes different companies use different terms - for instance I'd use powertrain to mean engine gearbox and transfer box (if AWD), and driveline for the prop shafts ,diffs and halfshafts. Other companies include the gearbox in driveline, or use powertrain to mean the whole system from engne through to the wheel hub. Greglocock 00:31, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Legal definition
The draft EC REPPR (European Commission, Regulation environmental and propulsion performance requirements) has a new definition for Drive train which is distinct from power train. I'm not sure whether it should be added here or with the power train article or both.


 * (32) ‘drive train’ means the part of the powertrain after the output of the propulsion(s), including the (torque converter) clutch(es), the transmission and its control, either a drive shaft or belt drive or chain drive, the differentials, the final drive, and the driven wheel tyre (radius);

Stripy42 (talk) 13:00, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Since it is part of the power train, I think this goes well inside this article.--Gorpik (talk) 10:50, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

The definition of drivetrain at the top still excludes transmission. Shouldn't one or the other be corrected? Daimler Ben (talk) 22:56, 4 November 2017 (UTC)

Title spelling
Shouldn't it be spelled power train (according to Merriam-Webster) or power-train (British usage)? --Melody Lavender (talk) 14:12, 19 August 2013 (UTC)


 * The EC REPPR report (cited directly above) uses the spelling "powertrain". That looks like a substantial document to me, so I suggest the current usage is fine.  Best wishes.  RobbieIanMorrison (talk) 20:52, 22 November 2016 (UTC)

Carriage and Wagon
I know very little about this topic and originally came to this article to learn. While reading this article, I saw the following comment in the first section, "In a carriage or wagon, running gear designates the. . ." I was then interested in what exactly those terms defined in terms of automobiles. The problem is that those articles are exclusively about non-powered vehicles (e.g. horse-drawn carriages). They both explicitly define them as not automobiles. It seems, then, that these links should be removed and, ideally, a definition added here for both terms. I didn't want to remove the links, however, given my large lack of knowledge in this area. Thanks! Bt1159 (talk) 15:55, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

Opening paragraph is confusing
The opening paragraph is quite confusing, and is likely due to multiple authors. It initially states that the term covers "the engine, transmission, drive shafts, differentials, and the final drive". However the final line of the first paragraph then states that "Usually "powertrain" is used to refer to simply the engine and transmission, including the other components only if they are integral to the transmission."

This is not helpful for an opening paragraph and needs to be clarified. I do not, however, have enough knowledge to be able to state which definition is truly the case?

- Master Of Ninja (talk) 12:51, 1 November 2017 (UTC)

"Final Drive" Redirects to Powertrain#FinalDrive, which doesn't exist
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