Talk:Prabhat Samgiita

Primary Sources that can be necessary
The songs composed by P. R. Sarkar from 1982 to 1990 were published in many formats such as cassettes, journals etc. The following ten books comprises simply of the lyrics of these 5018 songs.
 * 1) প্রভাত সঙ্গীত (প্রথম খণ্ড):Prabhát Sauṋgiit (First Volume): Contains songs from No.1 to No.500.
 * 2) Prabhát Sauṋgiit (Second Volume): Contains songs from No.501 to No.1000.
 * 3) Prabhát Sauṋgiit (Third Volume): Contains songs from No.1001 to No.1500.
 * 4) Prabhát Sauṋgiit (Fourth Volume): Contains songs from No.1501 to No.2000.
 * 5) Prabhát Sauṋgiit (Fifth Volume): Contains songs from No.2001 to No.2500.
 * 6) Prabhát Sauṋgiit (Sixth Volume): Contains songs from No.2501 to No.3000.
 * 7) Prabhát Sauṋgiit (Seventh Volume): Contains songs from No.3001 to No.3500.
 * 8) Prabhát Sauṋgiit (Eighth Volume): Contains songs from No.3501 to No.4000.
 * 9) Prabhát Sauṋgiit (Ninth Volume): Contains songs from No.4001 to No.4500.
 * 10) Prabhát Sauṋgiit (Tenth Volume): Contains songs from No.4501 to No.5018.
 * 11) Else than the collection of the lyrics, the author wrote a book about Prabhat Samgiita called Saḿgiita: Song, Dance and Instrumental Music, where he analysed many aspects of Samgiita.
 * 12) And another book co-authored by Sarkar and two other authors analyses Prabhat Samgiita as well.

Comments
The Hindu cite reads "The Renaissance Artists and Writers’ Association (RAWA), the cultural wing of the Ananda Marga Pracharak Samgh, organised a symposium on Prabhat Sangit recently." A RAWA-organized performance cannot be used to establish notability. Garamond Lethe 17:14, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

The Times of India piece isn't about much of anything. I think this is really indicative of the problem here: you've having to propose sources that only mention the songs in passing or are a puff piece regarding an Ananda Marga-sponsored performance. Notable music&mdash;especially notable Indian music&mdash;doesn't have this problem. Garamond Lethe 17:19, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
 * They are still not primary. And keep the pessimism to the end, I'm still going to add many more here. And don't forget that while somethings/people/subjects might not be "notable" in the US and Europe & be quite notable in their country of origin. For example, do you know who is Harun Kolçak? --Universal Life (talk) 17:30, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Of course they aren't primary. And no, notability is not country-specific.  That's not me talking, that's policy.  Garamond Lethe  17:43, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

Rather than pointing out the same problems over and over again I think I'll let you finish compiling this list and then you can point me to your best cite. Garamond Lethe 18:32, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

List of sources cited from Abhidevananda (on AfD's talks)
I collect here all the various sources cited from Abhidevananda on the AfD's talks:
 * The Telegraph-India (Tuesday, October 25, 2005),
 * The Telegraph-India (Friday, October 26, 2007),
 * Deccan Herald: Dance/music review (Monday, March 17, 2008)
 * The Hindu (Friday, Mar 21, 2008),
 * The Hindu (Tuesday, Sep 15, 2009),
 * The Hindu (Friday, Jun 19, 2009),
 * Aternoon Despatch & Courieer (Tuesday, June 07, 2011)
 * The Times of India: Divine music that heals (Sep 27, 2009)
 * The Telegraph-India (Tuesday, October 27, 2009),
 * The Telegraph-India (Monday, October 24, 2011),
 * The Telegraph-India (Wednesday, October 26, 2011),
 * The Telegraph-India (Thursday, October 27, 2011),
 * The Telegraph-India (Thursday, October 27, 2011),
 * The Statesman (Saturday, February 2, 2013),
 * Book: Dr Subhas Sarkar (Formerly Head of the Department and Shakespeare Professor of English, Rabindra Bharati Univerity, Kolkata Prabhata Samgiita-A Literary and Philosophical Appreciation
 * Book: Alakananda Parida (Lecturer in Philosophy). Misticism in Prabhat Samgit.
 * Book in Hindi: Only His Name ISBN-81-7252-10
 * book
 * Official website of Prabhat Samgiita
 * Website on Prabhat Samgiita
 * Prabhata Samgiita; The Lyrics and Their English Renderings (Selected Songs Part 1)
 * Reddish Blossom by Jyoshna La Trobe

Tanks.--Cornelius383 (talk) 12:30, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Hi Cornelius, I was going to go through that, now you made my job easier, thank you :)--Universal Life (talk) 18:38, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, thanks Universal Life. Now I've corrected some errors and added another ext. link to the list.--Cornelius383 (talk) 16:35, 3 February 2013 (UTC)


 * Most of these are looking very familiar. Which of these sources are independent of Ananda Marga?  Which are you using to establish notability?  Garamond Lethe  16:50, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

Independent citation
I have in hand Sohail Inayatullah's Understanding Sarkar: The Indian Episteme Macrohistory and Transformative Knowledge (Brill, 2002, ISBN 9004121935). There is a single mention of Prabhat Samgiit on page 21: "Until his death on October 21, 1990, Sarkar remained active in Calcutta composing over 1000 songs called Prabhat Samgiit (songs of the new dawn), giving talks on spiritual life, lecturing....". The song count is curious as I believe more exact figures were available earlier. This may also be useful in establishing the use of a spelling variant. Garamond Lethe 03:37, 6 February 2013 (UTC)