Talk:Prenzlauer Berg

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hello Urban-B we seem to be coming from different angles as regards Prenzelberg.... while I accept that e.g. the Hobrecht Plan was maybe introduced 1862 instead of 1861 you have to accept, that whether you like it or not it is now a yuppie area... e.g.upwardly mobile young professional couples...


 * It has nothing to do with acceptance or not. It simply was 1862. And the young professional couples are only a part of the population, not the population. You should also take into consideration that Prenzlauer Berg is a bit more than Kollwitzplatz!


 * as I said before I don´t have a problem with 1862 if that´s what it is...

other words you use don´t exist in english ... e.g. sanitated...


 * Try a google on that one.. Anyway, I don't care if you replace it with rebuilt..
 * I looked up Sanieren in my Langenscheidt and that says "rehabilitate" although I still think renovate is easily understandable...
 * My Langenscheidt is older than yours ;), it says "sanitate" means "sanieren" in German.. probably not up to date anymore.. I'd say rebuild or reconstruct would match.

maybe if you take another look at it..you´ll see what I mean.. why did you remove the Birth rate?? and the ratio of children to adults?? sowas kann mann hören (fast) jeden Abend in der Berliner Abendschau


 * I checked that one before removing it and found out that Mitte is the borough with the highest birth rate. If you find something different in the Berlin statistics ..
 * maybe i´ve been duped by the media constantly repeating about the birth rate..I´ll check that out too...

gruß IsarSteve 19:14, 26 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * gruß zurück from Prenzlauer Berg (and I'm def not a yuppie!) urban-b 11:36, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC)

hey Urban-B thanks for replying IsarSteve 13:14, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC) That was a fast reply IsarSteve! Respect. urban-b 14:06, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC)

denglish
I tried to rid this article of the denglishisms (German-English) which continually appear...

maybe I´ll try again... urban-b do you know what 24-7 means..??? and please explain what you mean by a "stone -Berlin" which doesn´t mean anything either..?? IsarSteve 19:24, 26 Oct 2004 (UTC)


 * Excuse me, you're not the only one who speaks English and I do know what 24/7 or 24-7 means. You should take into consideration that there are different ways of expressing certain things. And if I read some passages written by you, I suppose you are an expert in Denglish. urban-b 11:19, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC)


 * I didn´t say I was the only one who speaks english.. the difference being that english is my mother toungue and not yours.. you should see my written german :o( deutsche Sprache, schwere Sprache!! but seriously what do mean with "stone-Berlin" Steiniges Berlin?? English speakers won´t understand that.. honest!! IsarSteve 13:06, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * How could you know? And if you don't know the difference between e.g. "it's" and "its".. Take it easy.. "Steinernes Berlin" - I just added an article about Hegemann, should become a bit clearer now. It's a description of the building structure of Berlin of that time and I guess can hardly be translated.urban-b 14:06, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC)

mietskasernen
sind Mietskasernen Apartment blocks?? or tenement buildings??.... it´s make your mind up time!!
 * i guess that's the same, although I admit tenement buildings can have a different structure than a block..
 * I have no objection to the use of tenement although it has a rather negative twang ..my problem is that you replaced apartment block with tenement only to use it again for the same thing..
 * actually living in those blocks was no fun for a long time (that's what Hegemann meant). I just replaced it, not to use apartment blocks twice.

why do you insist on saying that Prenzlauer Berg is "in the eastern part of city...??
 * Because it geographically is. East Berlin doesn't exist anymore.. If you want to refer to former East Berlin, use another context.

do you say Steglitz is in the "southern part of the city" ?? or "Spandau" in the "western part of the city" ...?? no of course not


 * Of course I do. And in that context I didn't mean to say, it was part of East Berlin.


 * but you can´t say in the Eastern part..... or in the western part ... London  never had a wall but there was and still is a West London and a East London.... Ostteil can´t be directly translated...
 * If you use the fixed term "East Berlin" this can be misleading. That's why I tried to help me out that way, but I wouldn't mind if you change it (But keep in mind that Prenzlauer Berg is a borough of Berlin not East Berlin..)

if you mean it was part of 'East Berlin' then say so...

IsarSteve 19:57, 26 Oct 2004 (UTC) urban-b 11:13, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC) IsarSteve 13:01, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC) urban-b 14:06, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC)

I've begun translating some parts from the German site Brooklyn-alvin (talk) 00:11, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

obviously written by a fan

 * as P.B. is just a mistake Newberliners make before they move to Charlottenburg. 85.178.180.117 (talk) 17:55, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Disregard of Areas such as Thälmann Park
I think u should also mention that there are quite large areas in Prenzlauer Berg that were built in GDR times, particularly Ernst Thälmann Park and the area of Hanns-Eisler- and Thomas-Mann-Str. This article depicts only half the district. Could someone please include this aspect in the article, I am new to this, so dont know how to. Oh, and the by the way, its Prenzlauer Berg, not Prenzelberg only Zugezogene (dont know the word in english) call it that... Lina Hacker (talk) 23:47, 7 November 2010 (UTC)