Talk:Presbyterian Church in Canada

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Let the folks know @ the PCC website messageboard the horrible shape this page is in... Prepare for some major edits by presbyterians! Graniterock 07:43, Mar 3, 2005 (UTC)

structure
Headings are desperately needed here. Maybe have someone review for NPOV, since you alerted the church's boards. Circeus 01:16, Mar 31, 2005 (UTC)

NPOV?? What's that? Structure?? Boards?? Bacl-Presby

Now, does that look better??? It's a little more accurate, although there will still be folks in the United Church of Canada, who feel we should have been taken over in 1925.

NPOV means Neutral Point of View. For example us presbyterian types might look more favourably upon ourselves in certian subjects. Not sure if you are from the presybcan boards Bacl-Presby... guessing you are 'cause all these great additions started since then. I think Circeus is basically asking if you have a non-presbyterian type who would be knowledgeable in the subject to look through for any bias. Circeus obviously never been to the boards to even see the many diverse points of view there! Even a second pair of presbyterian eyes might be helpful with these concerns. Thanks for all your efforts thus far Bacl!

Are there any comments in the article you have particular concern over Circeus or is it just more or less a generalized caution?

--Graniterock 04:36, May 5, 2005 (UTC)

With regards to this recent comment, re NPOV (ah!!), my point of view is taken from the sources cited at the end of the article. Certainly John Moir's views, written from 1975-2004, in the book "Enduring Witness" are less confrontational from those titles written by Stuart C. Parker and Ephraim Scott....

FYI, Presbyterian College Principal John A. Vissers prepared a retrospective on perceptions in PCC history, post-1925 in the early 1990s, and perhaps I'll have to cite his work somewhere else....Also Keith Clifford's "The Resistance to Church Union" (He was a United Church Historian) provides many examples of the rhetoric that went on from 1904-1939....

"Bacl-presby"--May 12, 2005

Presbyterian Church in Canada
"I've just removed your recently added paragraph about 1925 and after. you might want to read some of our discussion on the PCC. Yes, I'm a PCC member, and aware of NPOV, too. If you take some time to read the original entries of the PCC on wiki, there were a number of PCCers not too happy with the shabby and biased comments. I'd also encourage you to read John S Moir's Enduring Witness, Third Edition, the PCC's Official History, written in 2004, along with any of the other works in the wiki bibliography." Bacl-presby 19:04, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

I am perplexed at your objection, and bemused that as you have not registered your name such that I cannot communicate with you directly. Is it that I suggested that relations between the United Church and the continuing Presbyterian Church are now friendly? I should have thought this uncontroversial. My grandparents were the prime movers in organising a non-concurring minority of their small town Presbyterian congregation in Western Canada to abandon their church building and re-constitute themselves as a continuing Presbyterian congregation; do you object to the fact that in due course they returned to friendship with the Presbyterian friends in the United Church? Or what? Masalai 14:58, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

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Wording quibble
Quoting the article: "It also was a benefit to have support from a Governor General of Canada, such as Lord Tweedsmuir, and Prime Minister William Lyon MacKenzie King in their respective offices in 1939."

If I understand the point, the Church HAD the support of Governor General Lord Tweedsmuir in 1939. "Such as" seems to suggest that another GG might had stepped to the plate instead.

How about: "It also was a benefit to have support from both the Governor General of Canada, Lord Tweedsmuir, and Prime Minister William Lyon MacKenzie King in their respective offices in 1939." Wanderer57 (talk) 21:20, 19 March 2008 (UTC)