Talk:President (government title)

Proposed merge
The article President (title) is an obvious though possibly unintentional content fork; the two articles serve the same purpose, though President (title) is more about usage. The information in it, to the extent it is sourced/sourceable, would be useful in this article. Finding this article, no one would ever look for President (title). It makes no sense at all as a disambiguation, since President is about the title. — SMcCandlish Talk⇒ ɖ⊝כ⊙þ Contrib.  03:35, 30 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Support merge. If at some point an "origin of the title" needs to be split off due to length, so be it, but for now I see no reason for both articles. —Kevin Myers — Preceding undated comment added 05:25, 23 January 2013

Collective presidency
Add Bosnia and Herzegovina--Bancki (talk) 11:46, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

Add Presidential Council (Benin) (197072)?--Bancki (talk) 10:05, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

A company begins with acting president A, then later president B.
Question: is president B the 1st or the 2nd president? 50.136.247.190 (talk) 07:55, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

It will depend on the internal regulations. Perhaps the company does not even bother to give any special treatment to its past history (such as keeping a gallery of former presidents), so the point would be moot. --Cambalachero (talk) 10:01, 24 January 2017 (UTC)

Move discussion in progress
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Semi-protected edit request on 28 July 2021
"some sources maintain that living former U.S. presidents continue to be addressed as "Mr. President", both formally and informally, and some contemporary experts on etiquette maintain that it is entirely appropriate."

please remove this line above, the source is a contributor article from HuffPo and is 100% false and not a valid source, also the source mentions nothing of multiple contemporary experts.

There is only one president. Referring to multiple people as a sole position is factually inaccurate. If the math is not enough, According to the US government, the way to address a former president is Mr. (last Name).

https://www.usa.gov/presidents#item-36752 70.117.181.21 (talk) 03:19, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅. Per WP:BURDEN, just the fact that it is cited to a generally unreliable source and that you've challenged it is enough to remove it. &#8209;&#8209;Volteer1 (talk) 07:06, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

stop
Stop this war now, 46.7.212.248 (talk) 22:03, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

Citation 17 no longer appears valid
FYI Citation 17 which directs to a US government page on Presidents no longer appears to have any information on addressing or contacting former Presidents or anything related to the proper title to use for them. It either should be removed or replaced. 2601:547:B05:4F51:A012:87C4:919B:3F50 (talk) 02:00, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

About the history of the title
I think the story of the title is quite poorly summarized. It only makes a mention of its etymology and then refers to the fact that the term "president" is used to translate some passages of the Bible. The Roman origin should be mentioned as an administrative position. Now, I know that most people are more familiar with the term "rector provinciae" as a synonym for "Roman governor" but it is my understanding that after the time of Tacitus (the historian), the terms "praeses" and "praesidens" began to be used with the same sense of "governor". Both words would be related although they would not be the same. The problem is that the only bibliography I have on this regard is in Spanish (not even in Italian, surprisingly). I only found one author who talks about the topic about the relationship between the words "praeses" and "praesidens" and I already referenced them on the Spanish Wikipedia in case you understand the language. I will also left the references here:

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/337997774_La_rivalidad_entre_praeses_y_praesidens https://www.academia.edu/49984415/El_origen_latino_de_algunas_denominaciones_de_gobernante_En_Espa%C3%B1ol

Apologies if I made a grammatical error. Bibliotecatdj (talk) 14:44, 22 April 2024 (UTC)