Talk:Presidential transition of Joe Biden/Archive 1

ZERO muslim american ZERO Asian American and ONLY ONE latino american
Biden is more racist towards minorities than Donald Trump

Semi-protected edit request on 11 November 2020
Change “presumptive president elect” to “projected President elect” in the lead to be more inline with terms the media uses BlackBird1008 (talk) 17:32, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the suggestion. I removed "presumptive" and did not add "projected", instead saying that most sources are referring to him as president-elect. -- MelanieN (talk) 17:58, 11 November 2020 (UTC)

Can we temporarily redirect the presidency article to this article?
I think that article is premature and all information can be given here, until Biden is inaugurated. Please comment here.— Naddruf (talk ~ contribs) 05:54, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 December 2020
There has been significant changes to the article made without consultation and a lot of content and works added without proper citation. I believe this pages at a minimum deserves semi-protection. Cliffmore (talk) 14:15, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
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Joe Biden 2020 presidential campaign page redirect
I have noticed that the "Joe Biden 2020 presidential campaign" redirects here. This shouldn't be the case. For example, the Donald Trump 2016 presidential campaign page does not redirect to the Presidential transition of Donald Trump page. DanJWilde (talk) 18:36, 7 November 2020 (UTC)
 * This has since been changed. DanJWilde (talk) 18:55, 7 November 2020 (UTC)

The Draft wasn't that bad
I moved everything from the draft article. I was invited to. Feel free to pick it apart as much as you want, and if it winds up looking nothing like I conceived it, Great! The flailing of the outgoing administration is going to be a major part of the transition and the nightmare scenarios were a major part of the campaign.

For all those who think this is horrible, improve it. That's what the edit feature is there for. Arglebargle79 (talk) 19:12, 7 November 2020 (UTC)

The Title
How do we change it? The word "planned' shouldn't really be there. it was put there because I thought that it would be disputed. It may be, but nobody will take it seriously. Arglebargle79 (talk) 19:24, 7 November 2020 (UTC)

I think the article should be titled "Presidential transition of Joseph R. Biden," as opposed to "Presidential transition of Joe Biden." It's appropriate to use the person's full name, not a nickname. — Preceding unsigned comment added by COScienceWriter07 (talk • contribs) 05:46, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

Picture missing
Can someone please bring up the picture from Wikimedia about the time when incumbent president Trump and president-elect Joe Biden meets at the White House as part of Joe Biden's transition to presidency? Billwang370 (talk) 23:56, 7 November 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 November 2020
Link to GSA Administrator, Emily Murphy, is link to Canadian activist that DIED in 1933.

Change the link for Emily Murphy

FROM: “Emily Murphy.” Wikipedia, Wikimedia Foundation, 27 Oct. 2020, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emily_Murphy.

TO:“Administrator Bio.” GSA, 2 Jan. 2020, www.gsa.gov/about-us/organization/office-of-the-administrator/administrator-bio. 174.28.175.132 (talk) 15:04, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Has been fixed by User:Yannkemper – Thjarkur (talk) 15:55, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

Mark Gittenstein
"Mark Gitenstein (announced September 5, 2020), former United States ambassador to Romania and 2020 Democratic presidential candidate[25][26]"

This looks like a mistake, cannot find anywhere this man ran for president and as he was not notable enough (see 2020 democratic primaries )

Can we remove this?

--Voncken1996 (talk) 20:25, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

Yes, that was a typo. SecretName101 (talk) 23:27, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

Refusal of the General Services Administration (under the leadership of Trump appointee) refusal thus far to allow Biden access to government-provided office space for transition
I believe it is worth mentioning that the General Services Administration, under the leadership of a Trump appointee, is currently refusing the Biden team access to the government-provided office space allotted for the use of a presidential transition team. https://time.com/5909532/donald-trump-joe-biden-administration-transition/ SecretName101 (talk) 23:31, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

Does the background info belong in this article?
added a bunch of information about topics that are occuring in the world right now. While these are topics that Biden will have to deal with, I fail to see how they relate to his transition. He won't solve these issues during his transition, and I think this article should be limited to plans he makes, or people he appoints. Maybe they would be better placed in Presidency of Joe Biden, or even 2020 in the United States. — Naddruf (talk ~ contribs) 22:02, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I think it would be a good idea to remove these topics as they are tangentially related to this page at best, and are much better fits on other pages you have mentioned. Przemysl15 (talk) 12:23, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I have now removed these sections. — Naddruf (talk ~ contribs) 20:19, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I agree with that. The "background" on the transition is the election. – Muboshgu (talk) 20:24, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

Opening section
The opening section is, frankly, syntactically nonsensical. I can't even tell what parts of it are trying to say. It also has some point of view issues in the parts that are discernible. I unfortunately can't edit to fix it. Proposed wording: Planning for the Presidential transition of Joe Biden officially began on June 20, 2020. The 2020 presidential election took place on November 3, 2020, and on November 7, 2020, the media projected Vice President Joseph Biden to be the presumptive winner. While Biden pushed to immediately move forward with the transition process, President Donald Trump had not yet conceded due to his team's ongoing ballot challenges and election litigation. Likewise, the General Services Administration, led by Emily W. Murphy, had not yet certified Biden as the apparent winner, blocking the transition team from key transition resources. -Miralvgc (talk) 08:41, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
 * It looks like someone has fixed a lot of the issues while I was typing this, though it could still use some work. -Miralvgc (talk) 08:42, 11 November 2020 (UTC)

Democratic Primary information in lede
I would like to see the information on the Democratic Primary removed from the lede, I don't believe it has anything more than tangential relevance to the transition, and is not mentioned anywhere else in the page. Przemysl15 (talk) 12:22, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

POV Quotation Marks
Why the POV quotation marks around the word call in the first paragraph in Transition Procedures? Universalist2020 (talk) 14:22, 13 November 2020 (UTC)


 * I think the quotes may have been there to show that "call" is a term-of-art with a specific meaning in elections. I agree that it could be interpreted as scare-quotes though. I've changed that sentence to the following:
 * I think it is a bit more precise and avoids the quotation mark issue. – Anne drew  15:41, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I think it is a bit more precise and avoids the quotation mark issue. – Anne drew  15:41, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

Change image to Biden's official transition logo
I think Biden's official transition logo is better here, why do others disagree?— Naddruf (talk ~ contribs) 07:55, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

It's because Joe Biden was Obama's vice-president, so it definitely concludes that Biden's transition is part of the office of the President Elect. Billwang370 (talk) 20:27, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

I don't understand. The logo says 46, so how can it be related to Obama? — Naddruf (talk ~ contribs) 20:40, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

We haven't reached consensus yet. Because Biden's transition is part of the transition of Obama's former vice-president, it should be made clear that Biden's ongoing transition is part of the Office of the President-Elect, like Obama before Trump was formally elected as the president. So can you all find the proper Biden transition logo with the Office of President-Elect on it and post it on Wikipedia? Billwang370 (talk) 03:18, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

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