Talk:Prince Buster

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He is categorised as convert to Islam even though there is nothing in the article that suggests that. Is there any source for it ? (Tec15 17:11, 18 April 2006 (UTC))

references?
this fella needs some refs: certainly if he's so notable. hint hint. JoeSmack Talk (p-review!) 05:20, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

There are plenty of sources, they just need to be parsed down to the more reliable (i.e. published books) sources. Most of this reads like the insert of CD sleeves. And yes, Prince Buster is a muslim with the Nation of Islam. I do not know if he is still involved with the organization currently. Upsetterfc 13:43, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Rivalry with Derrick Morgan
Buster's rivalry with Derrick Morgan is legendary, and is referred to on Morgan's Wiki - although like most legends it's low on references - Is there anyone out there who could put together a section on this ? I don't personally have the in depth knowledge.

91.125.43.200 (talk) 22:46, 14 June 2017 (UTC)

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"Other" Producers?
"He experimented with new production techniques that were used by other producers for years"

Does the "other" refer to producers that preceeded him or succeeded him? As it is, this sentance is very confusing, as are quite a few other statements throughout this article.

This is unrelated to "other producers," but I have to put it somewhere and don't know how to make it's own section (though I don't think this rightly deserves its own section, either.) The last sentence under "POST RECORDING LIFE" is about his performance with a band called the Trojans. The link is supposedly about this band, but takes you to another article about a french opera by Berlioz which seems to have no disambiguation page. Could somebody either de-link that article, or change it to a link relating to the band? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.17.226.213 (talk) 16:00, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

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Examples
I've removed the examples after the band names in post recording life as they suggested that each band covered only the songs listed whereas most of those bands covered Prince Buster many many times. Glassbreaker5791 02:37, 9 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Maybe you could add the other songs, then? Better to add more information to the article than remove what's there, surely? -88.109.214.6 12:34, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

OD?
Is this page claiming that Prince Buster's got a doctorate in optometry? This could use clarification-- there's no explanation in the body of the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.179.66.147 (talk) 09:19, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Birth date of Prince Buster
According to the Rodigan interview Prince Buster says he was born on the 24th May. Everywhere online including books printed before the net say 28th May. I find it highly unlikely that Prince Buster doesn't know the exact date of his birth. Here's what may have happened:

1) the date of the 28th come from publications pre-internet where books and information on reggae artists was scant. Today we take it for granted that we will be able to find newspaper articles that have been scanned or concert flyers that someone kept in a drawer for 20 years and now has a blog for them. You can imagine the problems faced with pre-internet researcher. No researcher had the time or funds to fly to Jamaica or the UK let alone find that one ska fan who kept his ticket stub and flyer from that London gig Prince Buster player in 1971. Now the internet allows us to do all the research without the hassle of funding and fans everywhere are putting up press clippings and concert flyers as well as vinyl records covers and rips. That rare Studio One track that sold 10,000 copies and for which the master tape was lost or damaged is now up on the net. Go back to the 1980s and check the ridiculous sums paid for rare 7 inch reggae vinyl.

2) the date of the 28th may be on his birth certificate having been registered a few days after his birth.

3) no one bothered to check.

In the Rodigan interview which itself was pre-internet (1982) he says 24th May. Lucky for us Rodigan or someone kept the interview. There is always the chance that Rodigan and Campbell have recently recorded the interview. C'est le internet.

You can listen to the Rodigan interview by clicking on the link icon in the references section.

Sluffs (talk) 14:56, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

Barrow interview and interpretation
The Barrow interview states that Prince Buster was sent to live in the country. Its not specific who he actually lived with but the following sentences suggest it was his grandmother. I think at the age he was sent which we can infer from the words "early 1940s" as not being mid 1940s (ie. 1945) means that it must have been before he was 7 - I find it highly unlikely that he would be sent to live with anyone else - so I presume its his grandmother. There's also the Prince Buster sentence that follows immediately describing his grandmother's (who he states lives in the country) private worship and the family orientated worship which suggests that he lived with his ("dare I presume" paternal) grandmother.

If I'm wrong then please correct my editing. If you even think that I've overstretched the conclusions I've drawn - please revert or replace my edit.

Sluffs (talk) 00:25, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

Prince Buster singing "Wash Wash" live on the 1964 documentary This is Ska!
There's footage of Prince Buster singing "Wash Wash" live on the 1964 Documentary This is Ska! The host is the former Prime Minister of Jamaica Edward Seaga. I will include it in the article at a later date. It might even be Buster's first TV appearance. I'm currently researching this documentary - some confusion about the venue and other things. There's lots of interviews with Seaga and he mentions Buster (in glowing terms) on a NPR radio interview (to do with the CD set release celebrating 50 years of Jamaican music compiled by Seaga).

The documentary is up on many sites so check it out if you want.

There's also some mention at the Gleaner of the New York 1964 Worlds Fair - Seaga seemed to have something to do with this and the Gleaner says Byron Lee and the Dragonaires went with Prince Buster as well as other Ska stars - all done with the intention of promoting Ska in the USA.

Sluffs (talk) 00:35, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

Tom the Great Sebastian Sound System
The four tracks I've cited in the Early Life section are mentioned by Campbell in the Rodigan interview. This was all before his professional career as Prince Buster and are intimately tied to the sound system of Tom the Great Sebastian. I've made the point that these tracks and probably many more fed into his early musical compositions. Anyone who likes music always knows which few tracks in their early listening days influenced them. The Rolling Stones are named after a Muddy Waters track yet "Wild Horses" from Sticky Fingers doesn't sound like Muddy Waters. Go back to The Rolling Stones first album and you are listening to music that is nearer to Muddy Waters, the Blues and Rock and Roll.

Sluffs (talk) 23:42, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

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Campbell began his professional career as a singer in 1956; performing in Kingston nightclubs. He formed a succession of bands with several of his friends, none of which were successful. Campbell's music career reached maturity with the growth of the sound system. Across Jamaica, music promoters drove vans filled with stereo equipment to stage mobile parties. The operators of the sound system would play the popular R&B dance records of the day and often they would have a vocalist called a toaster call out the dancers' names, chant in rhythm, and make light-hearted boasts. Deejay "toasting" was one of the precursors to the style of vocal delivery that eventually evolved into rap.

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I did come across a website that gave further details on his earliest bands - may have been allmusic.com. I'll have another look around the net and hopefully I'll be able to provide dates and facts with a ref.

Sluffs (talk) 19:19, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

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I've removed this material so it can reworked and inserted back into the article at the correct place and with refs. Chronologically the shop was started around the same time as his sound system. The Melodisc label and his ownership of it also needs a ref.

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Besides being a pioneering musician, Buster, like Clement Dodd, was also very interested in business. He started a record shop in Kingston in the early 1960s which is still owned and operated by his family today. Later he founded a jukebox company. He also started the Prince Buster Records label, at first as an attempt to keep the Melodisc label viable, but today is used to reissue his music.

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Sluffs (talk) 11:28, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

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