Talk:Prince of Persia (1989 video game)/Archive 1

PLEASE EDIT THIS PAGE NEW PSP GAME
THE PRICE OF PERSIA REVELATIONS WAS RELEASED FOR THE PSP (PLAYSTATION PORTABLE) SYSTEM TODAY.

PLEASE ADD THIS AS A PLATFORMER/GAME

Thank you

Spacetimecont 03:21, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

^ Shut it nub, capslock is lame for a start, second it's not a new game. WW remake

There is a new game out for DS however, it is called Battles of Prince of Persia and is official and takes place betweem SoT and WW Bowen 01:27, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

Separate articles
While some of the games may be little more than your standard fps, at least the first game was definately a blockbuster. If anyone would like to start articles on the first two games I'd be happy to expand on them. --Big gun 18:55, 23 July 2006 (UTC)


 * support 157.181.185.1 22:56, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Ancestor to Original Prince?
The observation that the Sands Of Time Prince is an ancestor of the Original Prince is impossible. The original games take place in ANCIENT Persia (the prologue in the Shadow and The Flame confirms that). While Sands Of Time takes place in MEDIEVAL Persia (Official Website Comfirms this). The medieval age took place after the Ancient Age. --FireV 23:37, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

Persian translation
What's the point of mentionning the Persian translation? The original game is in English, and the original title is "Prince of Persia". This is misleading and useless. Palpalpalpal 13:31, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Prince of Central Planning I have added info about the short story. It is considered as a notable one in modern Russian literature (as well as its author Victor Pelevin)

Historical inaccuracies.
Since the Sands of Time trilogy features Persia ruling Babylon, and the Prince’s attack strings namechecking Darius and Cyrus, that would place the timeframe of the game from about 539 to 330 BC. Yet Sands of Time and the loading screen of The Two Thrones feature Arabic writing. The Persians made the Nabatean (proto–Arabic) language of Aramaic their lingua franca, and the lettering for Arabic didn't develop until centuries later.

A bit of a historical discrepancy there, I’d say. The misconception that Persians spoke Arabic comes from Persians converting to Islam and taking up that culture, script, and so on. But Islam developed some 600 years after Jesus!

--Kodanshi 15:56, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
 * In the two thrones we see the tower of babel so that would place the timeline in biblical times. I say forget about placing the history because it'll only cause headaches.--Energman 12:50, 5 January 2007 (UTC)


 * I think a small section giving a couple of examples and explaining that the games are set in a culturally and historically incorrect persia (an alternatate world) would be appropriate, and if a couple of people who spend a little too much time reading about computer games not enough time learning about history and cultures acidentally become a little mor knowledgeable in the process, I think that's an excellent service for a Wiki that's supposed to be encyclopaedic.
 * I'll see If I can work my limited history skills on this article soon. Courtesy of Gavla 14:05, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

The Prince of Persia of Bible
It is no mere coincidence that one of the later versions has a prince of Persia that transforms into somewhat of a demon (Warrior Within \ Dark Prince \ ETC). In the bible there is a section where 1 Angel of God was sent to deliver a prophecy to the prophet Daniel. Well the Angel was confronted by the "Prince of Persia" a Demon, and they fought for 21 days, only when the Angel was assisted by another Angel "Michael" was he able to deliver the message.

Daniel 10:13 But the prince of the kingdom of Persia withstood me twenty-one days; but, behold, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me: and I remained there with the kings of Persia.

Later, after the Angel gives Daniel the prophecy he tells him that now he has to go BACK to fight the "Prince of Persia" and also the "Prince of Greece"  Daniel 10:20 Then he said, "Do you understand why I came to you? But I shall now return to fight against the prince of Persia; so I am going forth, and behold, the prince of Greece is about to come.

What this would mean in game terms is someone has done a little research into Christianity when putting together this game. In bible terms that may mean some Governments may actually have Demons that give them influence?? I dont know how much of this can go into the main page but im sure some of you will find it interesting...maybe. astenb 66.54.171.6 20:58, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Prince of Persia?
Why they'd named it Prince of Persia? there's nothing Persian in this video game, since its DOS version is's Indian more than Persian, and these new versions are worse, they're a combinition of Turkish (weapons) Arabic (musics) and Indian (architecture and clothes), there's nothing Persian in it, even characters' names are not Persian ... it's better to name it "Prince of everywhere except Iran" Sasanjan 11:06, 9 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Because "Prince of Persia" is satisfyingly alliterative and poetic. Anyway, why does it matter? It's just a platform game. --Stevefarrell 15:13, 9 September 2006 (UTC)


 * to Stevefarrell: It matters because it shows a lack of sensitivity as well as some ignorance on the part of the programmer. When someone from one culture/race/group inaccurately portrays another culture/race/group, this is often the basis of racism and misunderstanding of one another.


 * To sasanjan: I myself am not well educated enough on the various cultures represented to agree or disagree with your comments. However, a possible solution would be to produce a new game yourself which more accurately represents Persian culture. If Prince of Persia is, in fact, inaccurate in how it portrays Persian culture then I thank you very much for saying something about it. Rag-time4 20:29, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Prince of Persia (series)
If no one objects, I'll move the content regarding PoP's sequels and the series as a wholeinto this article.--AstrixZero 15:35, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Well now we just have a huge amount of redundancy between the articles. I understand the idea behind moving some of the content over, but you've either moved too much or not removed some things from the original article.

Mirror Prince/Dark Prince/ Shadow?
I thought the correct name for the other prince was "Shadow". Although I cant verify it myself apparently some of the puzzles in prince of persia 2: the shadow and the flame needed the prince to seperate himself from his shadow, an ability he gained from jumping through the mirror. Ihadris 15:35, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

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PC screen shots
The screenshots section shows the same screenshots over the label "PC" as for the Mac version. However, the PC version I've seen is a lower-resolution DOS version. Was there an enhanced-graphics PC version? -Ahruman 21:47, 28 April 2006 (UTC)


 * The only PC version of the original game that I'm familiar with is that low-res DOS version, and it looks exactly as those on the main page. Drst, 12:45, 13 June 2006 (CET+1)


 * The PC screenshots aren't from the original DOS game (it ran on CGA, 320x200, 4 colors!) The pictures shown seem to be from the Prince of Persia 2 for DOS.


 * That is definitely a set of original PC screenshots. The game could run on VGA at 320x200 with 256 colours; I remember playing it with CGA on my first PC and in VGA on my second. I can even see the original 3.5 inch disk of it sitting in my old disk box from where I'm sitting, so I can run it to check if necessary. To my knowledge there was never an enhanced version. Octopug 13:42, 1 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Actually it also ran in Hercules Monochrome ;-) Though the "red" and "blue" potions looked the same... LOL. Rjgodoy (talk) 07:00, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

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Racist?
"Whether such racial contrast is deliberate, is not known, but it probably has to do with the concept of beauty in general (as White race is deemed as the ideal of beauty by majority of, not only White, people): all the characters in the game are either absolutely good (highly idealised and beautiful) or absolutely bad (utterly evil and physically ugly)."

Is there any proof of this? that the majority thinks that the white race is the ideal of beaty? This sound kinda racist, even the "white race" lable is enough. Im removing the above quoted part from the article until the matter is cleared.

-Anonymous Interjection!-

Jesus christ man, this is political correctness gone mad. There is such a thing as a white race, just as there is a black race, asian race, jewish race etc. Its not racist. Would you prefer whites and blacks? Its the same thing!

This has nothing to do with prince of persia, but that comment really pissed me off. I'll probably never read any replies to this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.7.63.137 (talk) 13:47, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

"Greatest DOS game ever made"?
"However the PC version was hailed by many as the Greatest DOS game ever made"

Who exactly does "many" refer to and who is to decide which DOS game is the greatest? In my opinion, vague and subjective statements like the one above do not belong in an encyclopedic article.

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Category talk:Oblique video games
I am not sure whether to add Prince of Persia (1989 video game) to the Category talk:Oblique video games. Although the graphics use oblique projection to add depth to all the walls and platforms, all gameplay is 2D and no characters or objects ever use this depth? any thoughts? Carlwev (talk) 11:34, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

I added it as it now called Category:Video games with oblique graphics and it does have oblique graphics even if gameplay doesn't use the depth. Carlwev (talk) 18:58, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

ZX Spectrum
A version of this was produced for the ZX Spectrum, however I don't think it was an offical port. 2fort5r (talk) 16:51, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

PoV?
Why a non-neutral point of view warning is in the main article but there's nothing about on this discussion page?

Not sure. I came to the discussion page to ask about the PoV problems of the article, but there's no warning on the main page anymore. I don't really know anything about the game, so someone else will have to do the fixing. Rioux15 (talk) 17:37, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Mega-CD/PC Engine ports
These ports are based on the NEC PC-9801 version, not on the Macintosh one. --Baron de Saint-Rémy (talk) 05:42, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

Source Code Rediscovered
Jordan Mechner recently re-discovered the original source code for the game in floppy discs that've been sitting in a closet for over 20 years. He thought they were lost forever. He's since released them as free/open code. Probably should be noted in the article. http://boingboing.net/2012/04/18/original-prince-of-persia-sour.html TwoBitSpecialist (talk) 19:46, 20 April 2012 (UTC)


 * I think the page should mention that the 'source code release' is more a 'source code viewable' as Jordan Mechner has absolutely refused to apply a license for the source code. This means it remains entirely proprietary and has few legitimate uses (Jordan Mechner may in fact not even own the source code; there are no stated facts claiming this). Using it legitimately or even viewing it would legally taint any developer's future projects and they could be subject to legal action by PoP publishers for the duration of their carrier. Just something to consider before wikipedians flippantly direct developers to go fiddle with copyrighted materials. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.111.44.124 (talk) 19:06, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

Similarities with Aladdin
The bad guy is the sultan's vizier, who is named Jaffar, and he is trying to force the princess to marry him, primarily as a means to an end to sieze the throne?

Seriously, how did Disney not find themselves with a lawsuit 3 years later when they put out a multimillion dollar blockbuster that had pretty much an identical plot for it's backstory, right down to the villain's name? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.148.183.5 (talk) 17:14, 17 February 2016 (UTC)

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