Talk:Princess Sophie of Hohenberg

Princess and von
This is just sloppy... Google shows 500 some results for Princess Sophie von Hohenburg, many of them incorrect references to her mother and the rest of them from Wiki mirrors perpertuating the error. This should only stand so long as her mother is put at Sophie, Duchess von Hohenberg.

other talk stuff
If someone is reading this could you please change the title to "Sophie Von Habsburg" instead of "Sophie Van Habsburg" (I'm not sure how to do it :-~) thanx
 * I changed the title it, but for your future reference, here's how to do it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:How_to_rename_(move)_a_page (You'll need to be logged in).

Oh my dear friend I thank you abundantly for changing it and posting the link. *Two enthusiastic thumbs up!*


 * Except this still isn't her name: (and she wasn't "Sophie von Habsburg" either (the capital "V" and the minucule "v" are different letters, as far as Wikipedia is concerned): she was born of a morganatic marriage, and she was Sophie Marie Franziska Antonia Ignatia Alberta Fürstin von Hohenberg. So I'll move it and make the appropriate redirecting links. - Nunh-huh 08:58, 1 Jan 2005 (UTC)

I'm a bit confused about the year of death of the three siblings. According to the German Wikipedia (little information, hoped to find more here), the three siblings did not die in 1945, but in 1954 (Ernst), 1962 (Maximilian) and as late as 1990 (Sophie). I've found some other websites with these dates (and one - allegedly - showing a photo of an old Sophie), so they might be correct.


 * Yes, you're right, the article was incorrect and they didn't all die in 1945 but went on to have families. I'm unsure about the transportation to Dauchau event, but I've updated the dates and descendants of each sibling accordingly. Craigy 00:11, Feb 21, 2005 (UTC)

Preposition trouble
The article sez:


 * Until late 1918, they were exiled from Czechoslovakia, losing all their possessions there and took refuge in Vienna and Schloß Artstetten. But in 1938, following the Anschluß they were arrested and deported to Dachau.

"Until late 1918" implies that after 1918 they were allowed to return to Czechoslovakia, but this doesn't make sense. I'm guessing it should be "After late 1918" or "In late 1918"? --Jfruh 28 June 2005 06:49 (UTC)

what happened after ww2?
what happened to her after ww2? Kingturtle 20:37, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

Marriage and issue
The section Marriage and issue is currently longer than all other sections combined, the reason being that it lists not just Sophie's children, but also her grandchildren, great-grandchildren, even some great-great-grandchildren... I don't know if there's a specific guideline on this for nobility, but it seems to me that a section filled with details (full names, birth dates) of non-notable living people, including minors, is not in line with WP:BLP, even if it were sourced (which it's currently not). Please let me know if you feel otherwise - if not, I'll reduce the section to include only Sophie's children. Lennart97 (talk) 17:42, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I've discussed the matter on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Royalty and Nobility/Archive 9, and the conclusion is that per WP:NOTGENEALOGY and WP:BLPNAME there's no justification for listing all descendants with biographical details. I've trimmed the section accordingly. It remains unsourced, so if anyone has a source, please add it. Lennart97 (talk) 18:36, 16 December 2020 (UTC)