Talk:Prisencolinensinainciusol

really first rap song in the world
is "Here Comes The Judge" by Pigmeat Markham --Inworms (talk) 17:58, 5 September 2017 (UTC)

Quote
Do we really need the quote from Cory Doctorow? It adds nothing to the entry, and in fact simply repeats what is said in the previous sentence? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.193.88.167 (talk) 4 January 2010

Accents
On the Discogs pages (for example this one, the title of the song has accents on some of the letters. Should these be added to the title in the article? JaffaCakeLover (talk) 22:00, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

Pronunciation
It might be helpful to specify the pronunciation of the song (Preez-en-colin-en-sin-en-cyew-zole). Could someone who can write in phonetics add that? 70.36.139.219 (talk) 20:56, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

From what you wrote, it's something like [ prizɛnkɔlɪnsɪnɛnkjuzoʊl ]. I'm not sure where the stresses are if that's important. Otherwise, someone could just post that. --65.34.193.54 (talk) 01:11, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Well someone ought to put an external link to the video at Youtube, found here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZXcRqFmFa8. In the beginning, it actually says "Prisencol..." or whatever, so maybe someone could write an IPA pronunciation for that. IOA94 (talk) 17:12, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

Literally "Pure" Gibberish?
Was it actually "pure" gibberish? How can we know that it was actually anything close to "pure" gibberish? 182.239.147.250 (talk) 17:23, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
 * You're right - it isn't "pure" gibberish. It was actually modelled after English, in order to illustrate TO English speakers what English sounds like to native Italians who don't know it. It's quite an interesting piece of work. IOA94 (talk) 23:28, 19 November 2010 (UTC)


 * It is a caricature of what English sounds like; it was not “modelled” after English. There's a big difference and it's noticeable. mcornelius (talk) 14:48, 12 October 2011 (UTC)


 * "Prison-call-in-ensign-ine-choose-all" - It's really pure Gibberish. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.107.162.161 (talk) 15:09, 16 August 2014 (UTC)

Was this before or after rap?
Did it precede rap music or was it a parody of rap music? -- megA (talk) 00:14, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I think the release date of 1972 should tell you something. 128.61.29.113 (talk) 20:07, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

First rap song
Therefore, this should be recognized as the first rap song.Dogru144 (talk) 03:47, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

The first rap may be "meykhana" --2001:A98:C060:80:E9CE:6C12:2BD7:618A (talk) 11:12, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

Dylan?
Do sources actually claim it is intended to sound like Bob Dylan? It doesn't. While the songwriter himself makes it clear it's meant to sound in general like all the American music he was listening to, the actual result is much more similar to Jim Morrison of the Doors, and even the only real-English material in the song, occasional repetition of "alright", is clearly borrowed from Morrison's own use of it, right down to his intonation and semi-Southern accent (Morrison was from Florida, but began shifting toward a California sound except when doing blues-rock material, like "Roadhouse Blues", which prominently features some of this "alright", especially in live recordings). Anyway, I would think that by now other material written about this piece of music would be making more connections like this, not just "sounds like Dylan". The only Dylan resemblance, aside from maybe an over-reliance on the z sound, is that half the time it's hard to understand what Dylan was saying either, due to his mumbling. PS: If you have not heard the track yet (via YouTube or otherwise), I cannot recommend playing it more than once, at least not without a very substantial time between listens/viewings. I found that it badly earwormed me for quite some time, and years later I can't shake it (especially the TV version with the choreography; it kind of eyewormed me, too, and I only watched it twice.   — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  05:32, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Can't speak to the actual sound, but people do seem to compare the style to Dylan. I've added a The Guardian source to the article that states it was designed to be "Dylanesuqe". Vaselineeeeeeee★★★ 14:50, 11 December 2020 (UTC)

Added sample audio clip
I have added a short sample audio clip to this article. I believe this significantly enhances the viewer's experience, because they can directly listen to the "English-like unintelligible gibberish" that Celentano was going for. It is one thing to read about how it might sound. Actually hearing the phrases for yourself is something else.

I have left my rationale on the. I have clipped only 10% of the original length, and reduced the quality settings in Audacity to 0, per WP:SAMPLE.

Feedback is welcome. What do you think? --Culix (talk) 02:57, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

Not gibberish
Prison calling ensinain(???) choose all In the call men seven Prison calling ensinain(???) choose all all right We’re the same choose men Op(???) the same all what men In the colobos(???) die/day? Trr... Chuck is a mind begin[ning] the call Baby stay ye(???) push yo oh We’re the same choose men In the colobos(???) die/day? I am a Green Bee (talk) 13:29, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

"however the lyrics are deliberately unintelligible gibberish with the exception of the words "all right""
Should there be some additional clarification in this sentence or a note reference given? Because, even if the linked references state this, it isn't accurate toward any lyric listing I can find. They don't say "all right" in the song, they say "ol rait". Silver seren C 06:38, 21 February 2023 (UTC)