Talk:Pritzker Architecture Prize/Archive 1

Comment
There are three versions of this page under different names. Can someone merge all the various names? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.227.19.34 (talk • contribs) 25 September 2005‎

Consistancy
If your goin to list the lifespan of any architect in the awardees list you should list all of them with blanks for living recipeants John Smith Sr (1897-1985), John Smith Jr (1927- ) --Lemmey (talk) 20:44, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Country
I'm not familiar with the Wiki standard for which country is supposed to be listed next to a person, like in this list. Is it the birth country or current country of residence? Just curious, because I know Gehry lives in US but was born in Canada. Wikidsoup  [talk]  20:46, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Shouldn't [Ieoh Ming Pei] also have the Chinese flag? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.28.127.81 (talk) 19:53, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

Youngest Pritzker Winner
I am fairly certain that Richard Meier was 49 at the time of his being awarded the prize. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.64.104.89 (talk) 05:08, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Seems to be true according to this source. He's born October 12 while Portzamparc is born May 5, so if the announcement/ceremony was about the same time of the year than Meier was younger when receiving the prize. --Elekhh (talk) 22:41, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

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I noticed that the photo next to Gordon Bunshaft is actually Oscar Niemeyer's. I don't how to fix that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.4.84.64 (talk) 13:10, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

Location
In adding the announced location of the ceremony, I followed the format of the last two years, including the city but I notice now that it was not done that way previously. A very few have the city in the name of the location, but most don't. I propose adding the city to the rest for both readers info and consistency. Alanscottwalker (talk) 10:52, 26 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Makes sense to me. -- ELEKHHT 11:49, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

No longer a list
The 'controversy' section that has been moved around top to bottom suggests to me that this is now an article with an embedded list. That being the case, we should probably further break up the introduction into article sections and instead have a WP:Lead. Alanscottwalker (talk) 12:27, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
 * I agree, it shouldn't be a list-class article anyway. -- Horst-schlaemma (talk) 15:25, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Feel free to write an article about the prize itself then, the majority of the article is a list. Until there's enough to break out into its own article, it should remain a list.  The Rambling Man (talk) 15:40, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
 * I don't see how that's supposed to make any sense. -- Horst-schlaemma (talk) 09:03, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Like Baileys Women's Prize for Fiction and List of Baileys Women's Prize for Fiction winners.  You can move the existing article to "List of Prizter Architecture Prize winners", trim the lead a little, remove the controversy section, and re-create an article with the title "Pritzker Architecture Prize" where you can add more detail to your heart's content, and simply link out to the winners' list.  The Rambling Man (talk) 09:14, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
 * I do not see how that really makes sense either, as it seems duplicative. We could do that but per WP:List, we can also embed the list in the article. Alanscottwalker (talk) 11:40, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, it was indeed duplicative but it was insisted upon by another editor. But all this is moot.  The article is an article whether it's a list or not.  The predominant feature of the article is a list of winners.  Until that becomes anything different, I can't see the issue here.  The Rambling Man (talk) 11:45, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Well, it looks like a cluttered mess now, so hopefully you're both pleased with the result. I used to be pleased and proud of the list, it was featured on the main page a few times.  But I'll take it off my watchlist as this arbitrary and unilateral carving up has done it no end of bad. The Rambling Man (talk) 12:18, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Agree with The Rambling Man that changes in the past 24 hours were not an improvement. I prefer this version. In the current version the section title "Prize" makes little sense and neither does it make sense to have each paragraph in a separate section. -- ELEKHHT 14:33, 7 April 2014 (UTC)

Article and category name
Note that there is a discussion at Categories for discussion/Log/2014 March 29 about renaming Category:Pritzker Prize winners to Category:Pritzker Architecture Prize winners for consistency with the current article name. The name of the article was changed in 2011 from the shorter "Pritzker Prize" (PP) to the current "Pritzker Architecture Prize" (PAP) for consistency with the official name. Looking at the five criteria for determining Article titles, there are arguments for both forms: the PAP is more precise, while PP is more concise. Currently PP is the more commonly used name, more google search results both for simple web pages and books. Looking at media reports about this year's prize winner, Pritzker Prize is more common (CNN, ArchDaily, Guardian, LA Times, etc.). Should the article be renamed to the more common and shorter form? Also please comment at the CfD linked above. -- ELEKHHT 23:58, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
 * I think "Architecture" should remain within the article's name. We're facing a jungle of prizes, ceremonies, events etc. across the web for various things. If an article name says what it's all about and it does it in such a compact way, we should be glad that's even possible. -- Cheers Horst-schlaemma (talk) 11:50, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

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