Talk:Programme for International Student Assessment

Related merger
I would like to bring to the attention my proposed merge for List of countries by student performance into PISA 2012. The discussion is located at Talk:List of countries by student performance.

Dr. Hanushek's comment on this article
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"This is a strong article that does a reasonable job of describing the history of the test and its current status. It could easily add more detail on historical outcomes of PISA since 2000."

We hope Wikipedians on this talk page can take advantage of these comments and improve the quality of the article accordingly.

Dr. Hanushek has published scholarly research which seems to be relevant to this Wikipedia article:


 * Reference : Hanushek, Eric A. & Link, Susanne & Woessmann, Ludger, 2011. "Does School Autonomy Make Sense Everywhere? Panel Estimates from PISA," IZA Discussion Papers 6185, Institute for the Study of Labor (IZA).

ExpertIdeasBot (talk) 14:43, 21 May 2016 (UTC)

Nationalistic POV pushing
There has been intentional manipulation of this article's content, in an attempt to claim "my country is the best" There are figures for OECD and non-OECD members. Why make a list giving only OECD members? Is it because the top rated nations are non-OECD members, and it allows other nations to claim a higher position? Why give a list based on averages? This isn't about average performance, this is about performance for three completely different subjects.

China rocked this test. Get over it. Spacecowboy420 (talk) 10:51, 8 June 2016 (UTC)

Influence and impact (in Europe?)
The section on "Influence and impact" mentions, "Until the 1990s, few European countries used national tests. ... By 2009, only five education systems had no national student assessments", citing "Rey O, ‘The use of external assessments and the impact on education systems’ in CIDREE Yearbook 2010, accessed January 2017 at http://www.cidree.org/publications/yearbook_2010?PHPSESSID=baip221utd9v77b89hov0s3al6".

Since Rey focuses on Europe, I assume this really means, "only five European education systems had no national student assessment." I will make that change. If I'm mistaken, I hope someone will revert this change -- with a note explaining why only five countries worldwide "had no national student assessment" by 2009. The statement seems implausible by itself, even without the reference that seems to refer to Europe only. DavidMCEddy (talk) 18:26, 28 May 2017 (UTC)

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Major data change
I downloaded the raw data from PISA web site for all years and combined the results into three big tables. This will address all the bad data issues we've been having. Zrh168 (talk) 08:08, 6 October 2018 (UTC)

Add details about the test
How many questions? What is maximum score? How much time is allowed? Are all three tests on the same day? 2023-03-07 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.210.202.226 (talk) 06:21, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

PISA is the most biased nonsense on planet
It is a known fact that more smarter people live in big cities, so if you compare results in big cities they will have higher scores than overall in a country. Now, for China, you only use results from 4 largest (and best educated!!!) cities and put it in the list where other countries calculate the results in the entire country. I heard many times from people talking that "people in china are so smart because of their PISA scores", but in fact, the score are just calculated differently for China. So I suggest that the creators of this so called "study" are either Chinese and want to do some propaganda, or they are just very uneducated to do a proper study. 109.42.178.168 (talk) 10:56, 4 June 2023 (UTC)