Talk:Progressive Area

Ideology
Hello User:Laveid, I am much interested in discussing about AP's ideology, but let's do it here and let's do it in English, so that other en.Wiki users (especially those involved in Italian politics: User:Autospark, User:Nick.mon, User:Braganza, User:Mattybra Nuovo, etc.) may have a say. In my view, AP is primarily a democratic-socialist party. Most of its members hail from SEL, a democratic-socialist party (also SI is primarily democratic-socialist, while LeU is primarily social-democratic because of the predominance of the MDP within it). The alliance with +E is just technical, as that between the Radicals and the CD, indeed. --Checco (talk) 17:10, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
 * If AP members are mainly former members of SEL/SI, they'll be largely democratic socialists, but if we want we can insert both ideologies. -- Nick.mon (talk) 18:07, 24 January 2018 (UTC)


 * In my opinion the ideology that characterizes AP's members is progressivism, just like it's name suggests. It's a generic and broad definition that we can extend also to Progressive Camp and the galaxy of politicians between LeU and PD. Democratic socialism is a very specific definition that in these years can be applied to many European leftists but not to the reformer ones. Pisapia, Progressive Camp and Progressive Area have a clear riformist position, not democratic socialist like the more leftists members of LeU. For these reasons I prefer to consider "progressivism' as the main ideology of Progressive Are, like the name clearly suggests!Laveid (talk) 22:13, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Honestly, I find a "progressivism" an almost meaningless term (it means generally on the centre-left), and we should avoid using it wherever possible. We also shouldn't take political parties names literally either.--Autospark (talk) 15:56, 25 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Honestly I find "democratic socialism" very exaggerated talking about Progressive Area and its members, that are reformers like Pisapia. Progressivism maybe is a generic definition but Progressive Area itself it's quite generic as political party and it's membership in +E at least "moderatizes" AP. Progressivism or Social democracy are better definitionsLaveid (talk) 20:47, 25 January 2018 (UTC)