Talk:Project Bluebeam

"Project Blue Beam" redirects to Serge Monast page - for no good reason!
I have tried on multiple occasions to edit the 'project Bluebeam' page by including the actual information about 'Project Bluebeam' and undoing the pointless redirect to the Serge Monast page. The user 'David Gerard' has undone my revisions every time. In fact, going back in the history of the 'project Bluebeam' page he has been doing this for quite a few years. He cited "multiple cut n paste copyright violations" as his excuse. I have since contacted the author of the source I used and if I can't get him to grant permission to use his work then I will do my own original write up in a 'Wikipedia format' in order to get round this excuse - although I feel the user David Gerard is more concerned with keeping the specific 'project Bluebeam' information out of public circulation - rather than being concerned about any 'copyright violations'. We will see if he tries to delete the 'Project Bluebeam' information again after I have re-written in an original format. If he does, then his intentions and motivations are not 'copyright protection' but to keep the information out of public circulation! - 149.254.219.224 (talk) 22:55, 7 January 2014 (UTC)


 * - Given that's a transcript of Monast, you didn't do any such thing. Also, WP:RS. It's also been deleted before - David Gerard (talk) 08:44, 8 January 2014 (UTC)


 * - Actually, the source I used was an interpretation of Monast's work by a third party author. So YES I did email that author and ask his permission. I don't need you to interpret what I did and did not do, so calling me a liar is abuse given the circumstances. Also, completely unprofessional. You are therefore the liar!


 * The WP:RS has not been violated here. On the 'WP:RS' page, it states -


 * "The word "source" when citing sources on Wikipedia has three related meanings:


 * •	the piece of work itself (the article, book);
 * •	the creator of the work (the writer, journalist),
 * •	and the publisher of the work (for example, Random House or Cambridge University Press)."


 * Since the author of the work is being quoted (Monast himself) then the source material is relevant. So 'WP:RS' is not being breached in this circumstance.


 * Finally I contend the Wikipedia article of deletion regarding 'Project Bluebeam' because on that page it WRONGLY states -


 * •	"Delete as not notable. There is no significant coverage of this conspiracy theory in reliable sources. Note that the coverage doesn't need to support the truth of the theory (it can be skeptical), but the theory is not well enough known to justify this article. - Pburka (talk) 22:13, 11 September 2010 (UTC)"


 * This is complete trash! There are MULTIPLE RELIABLE SOURCES to verify this information from, and the theory IS well known. Other websites have published source material (including books) to back up the assertions of Monast. Anyway, there are PLENTY of other unrelated articles on Wikipedia that rely on dubious sources but they somehow manage to be acceptable to Wikipedia so what is so special about Project Bluebeam???


 * You have already received multiple complaints over this issue and the fact that you have is proof positive the Wikipedia article of deletion is wrong as the theory IS WELL KNOWN! In fact, other forums criticize Wikipedia regularly for deleting it! At the end of the day this is a public website, if I want to write an article about a project that actually exists, then I will and I will provide MULTIPLE SOURCE MATERIAL to back it up! - 149.254.219.224 (talk) 03:38, 10 January 2014 (UTC)