Talk:Project manager

Project Managers working on software development
More mention needs to be made of Project Managers working on software development. Mathiastck 16:29, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Please generalise beyond the three fields mentioned in the article. Fireglowe 22:11, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Are all those certifications IT only? Can anyone add certification and degree information for non-IT fields? 67.103.5.26 14:10, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

This statement is innacurate --A project manager's only duty is to ensure the success of a project by minimizing risk throughout the lifetime of the project.-- While this is important, it is not a project manager's only duty. Project Manager's are also responsible for the management of the following -- project issues, communication, scope, time, cost (budget), resources, quality, integration, and procurement. A PMI (www.pmi.org) summary of project management needs to be added.

This page could do with improvement: the types of PM are unbalanced; the certifications are all PMI based (there are many others); IT and Construction does not dominate the field of PM; - I am happy to make suggestions and allow people to comment. Also it is asking for addition references - we have one that I could add (it is totally non-promotional- and contains links to very credible and useful resources) here: http://www.pmis-consulting.com/the-real-role-and-responsibilities-of-project-managers/ - I will add this in future if there no objections. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ktlonergan (talk • contribs) 18:13, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

Construction Project Manager
This seems to me to be an odd term and one that I am not familiar with, I suspect it is US centric? I would think it should be Project Construction Manager instead. If it is meant to define a Project Manager in the Construction Industry, this seems to be a restrictive term, for this Article. What about the mining industry, the defence industry, the aeronautical industry, aluminium industry, heavy industry ETC. The Project Manager is usually from the client organisation not from the builder. The common thing about all of these industries is that their projects are project managed by engineers. So I think it shoud be Engineering, Architecture and Software in the lead, and form the sections in the body of this Article.

On this comment (from a UK perspective) the PM does not have to be from the client organisation - that appears to be an industry specific comment. There can be a client PM and even a prime contractor PM too sometimes (you can argue the rights and wrongs of that - I am not saying that is correct but it is common practice in some industries). In truth, there should only ever be one PM and those industries who call the client representative the PM are doing so incorrectly (see my comment on single point responsibility below). Construction PM is not an odd term in the UK - it denotes the domain experience people are looking for. Similar to IT etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ktlonergan (talk • contribs) 21:57, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

I also find the opening statement that the PM comes from the client organisation misleading and not NPOV. There are are a few industries where this happens but they are far outnumbered by examples where the PM comes from the supplier organisation.

There is one key aspect which is not covered about the role of the PM, and that is single point of responsibility for a project. To be clear on the role, it is fundamental to cover this. There are also references as to the origin of this practice, which is fundamental to some industries but not common to all: http://lockheedmartin.com/us/aeronautics/skunkworks/14rules.html

I also find this paragraph somewhat odd "In the past, construction project managers were individuals who worked in construction or supporting industries and were promoted to foreman. It was not until the late 20th century that construction and construction project management became distinct fields." If they are the now Project Construction Manager then have certainly never been foremen, I would say were previously called Resident Engineer! Construction was a distinct field long before the 20th. century? And Engineering Project Management has been around for a long time. Lets be clear there is only one Project Manager on any project. The problem here seems to be the dimunition, of the term project to include what were previously called tasks. Consequently the term Project manager is used innapropriately. Just like the term Manager is these days applied in job descriptions for just about everyone including the Janitor who now is called a Sanitation Manager !!!

It is precisely for this reason that the term Professional Project Manager has been created just as Professional Engineer and Certified Engineer now are used. From a wiki perspetive this Article contains no references, and insular opinions have crept in and not WP:NPOV what is badly needed is a cleanup and lots of WP:RS references. Jagra (talk) 08:29, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

I do not see anything strange with the term Construction Project Manager or Software Project Manager or any kind-of-project Project Manager. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 167.107.191.217 (talk) 19:52, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Self reference in the page
At the end of the page there is a reference labeled PMP to Project Management Professional which is unfortunately redirected to Project manager. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 167.107.191.217 (talk) 19:58, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Copy-paste registration
-- Mdd (talk) 12:31, 29 October 2009 (UTC) . Description of Construction Project Manager is not truth, he is nor GC restricted. Another problem is Architectural Project Manager - it is fiction. Meybe he is an architect of software... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 150.254.10.108 (talk) 15:57, 22 June 2013 (UTC)
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