Talk:Prophets in Islam

separate
Separate this article into 2 parts. "Backwards arab view of prophets" and "logical consistent view of prophethood, with Quranic proof" then let the reader view both views. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.165.234.40 (talk) 16:36, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Serious Retardation
Nabi comes from old semitic world. "reveal". Rasoul means messenger, or someone that delivers a message. Can someone please get rid of the retarded middle age scholars who believe that a messenger is superior to a prophet. There are no more prophets, Muhammed was the seal of the prophets(Quranic verse), but never does the Quran mention no more messenegrs. Anyone can be a messenger, all they have to do is preach the word of God. As far as prophets not being messengers... what kind of crazy stuff is that??? Every prophet is by definition a messenger... ! Can someone please purge this place from wahabbis, salafis, sunnis, shia and all the rest of the middle age scholar worshipping freaks out of this page. And coherently re-write this article truthfully? e

can the person above please be civil and not use ad hominem attacks? the mistake you mention may simply be a translation problem

Tydoni (talk) 04:05, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Rashad Kahlifa
This good article is ruined by this random section. I think it should be removed, regards.

I've deleted the Rashad Kahlifa bits. It was under "Other Possible Prophets" section, but was referred to in the article as "False Prophet according to Islamic Faith".

Messenger and Prophet
Have you ever seen that Messenger is always a Prophet? Do you know that Mohammed is prophet and he is Messenger of Allah. (Puntori 16:00, 12 February 2007 (UTC))


 * There is at least three messengers(Rasul) in Quran that we have no verse to show that they are prophets(Nabi) also: Hud,Saleh and Shoaib.--Submitter to Truth (talk) 04:05, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Huzlah Ibn Safwan
Ibn jarir stated that the dwellers of Ar Rass were the people of one of Thamud's villages. Allah sent a prophet to them called Huzlah Ibn Safwan. They denied and killed him, so Allah destroyed them.

why is he not on the list

Resolute
I found a reference for "the Resolute" and am suggesting another spelling. I'm trying to find out how many messengers there are. Is it three? That seems like an important number. Jonathan Tweet 00:54, 12 March 2007 (UTC) I marked some of these statements as needing citations. I can't readily find a clean, generally accepted definition of rasul and nabi. Unlike Judaism and Christianity, Islam distinguish between a "rasul" (messenger) and a "nabi" (prophet). Both are "divinely inspired" recipients of God's revelation. However, messengers are given a message for a community in book form and, unlike prophets, are assured success by God. While all messengers are prophets, not all prophets are messengers (see also Itmam al-hujjah). or , then sign your comment with  ''. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's policy on article titles.''

Support

 * Looks okay to me. "Prophets in Islam", "Islamic Prophets" or "Prophets of Islam" (like Prophets of Christianity), makes no difference from what I can see. Osiris (talk) 05:54, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

Oppose

 * Oppose – Many are prophets in other religions. Also, "prophets" should not be capitalized when not the first word of the title, since the title follows sentence case. --Article editor (talk) 03:20, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Oppose – “Prophets in Islam” is more accurate as the article features prophets from other religions, and the title “Islamic Prophets” potentially suggests the prophets are from Islam only. Tanbircdq (talk) 16:57, 15 July 2013 (UTC)

Discussion

 * Any additional comments:


 * Roughly 22 of the "major prophets" listed are not Islamic prophets, but are prophets widely accepted in Christianity. They are only Islamic prophets to Islams. This article would need to be only about the two or three prophets that are unique to Islam to change the title to Islamic prophets. Apteva (talk) 15:41, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Removal of Ahmadiyya content
Different sects of a religion can have different core beliefs. I see no reason for this removal. -- Neil N  talk to me  20:14, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Despite the single edit summary by 64.26.134.201 ("There is a consencus amongst all Muslims that Muhammad (Allah bless him) is the last prophet. Ahmadiyya differ in definition of Prophet. It like adding Muslim view in the topic of Trinity"), I don't see that Ahmadiyya are not identified as a form of Islam. At various times, certain people have considered Latter Day Saints, Seventh-Day Adventists, and even Catholics to be "not Christian", yet that doesn't mean their views on various Christian topics should not be included in an encyclopedic manner. In fact, an encyclopedic addressing on Islamic views on the Trinity is probably quite appropriate.  If Ahmadiyya are considered a Muslim sect, then the statement in the edit summary is false.   78.26  (I'm no IP, talk to me!) 19:11, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, our Ahmadiyya article explicitly refers to them as Islamic. There's the question if the material places undue emphasis on the sect but that should be hashed out on this page rather than edit-warring to remove the entire passage. -- Neil N  talk to me  00:38, 22 May 2014 (UTC)