Talk:Proposed Japanese invasion of Sichuan

Corrections
I made some corrections, but some parts are still incomprehensible, unfortunately. --Macdyne73 14:31, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

where did you learn English??

That is hardly a very constructive comment. I wonder whether this is the "most standard" term though. I get precisely zero matches for a google search for "Szechwan Invasion" Sleepy42 17:06, 17 May 2005 (UTC)


 * -preciselly for sended sources respect at these information

i present this:


 * Chiang KAI-SHEK:Soviet Russia in China,Madrid(spanish translation),1961


 * Chiang,Gen.Wego W.K. How Generalisimo Chiang KAi Shek Won The Eigth-year Sino-Japanese War 1937-1945,Taipei,1979.


 * Chiang,Gral Wego W.K. DIE STRATEGISCHE BEDEUTUNG TAIWANS,Taipei
 * Idem. CHINESE COMUNISTS MODERNIZATION PROBLEMS,Taipei 1979
 * Max,Alphonse.Southeast Asia,Destiny and Reality,Copyrigth by International Studies.(spanish translation By Dr.Santiago Rompani and Prof.Alvaro Casal,Montevideo,Uruguay,1985)

but exist other paper impressed books with some references at these information,still no stay in any website.

-Japanese Army when planified these great scale operation having to expect the defitive and total destruction of Chiang Kai Shek nationalist forces and conquest china mainland for ever,but how german case,these complicated operation and your logystics are very difficult,theirs depend for adequate reinforcements to sended to seas when japanese loss the sea superiority in Pacific ,chinese and Yellow sea,can t to makin these ambitious operation.

japanese expect with these plan to finalizing the molests chinese question in definitive form,but when see the real situation japanese limited only at making some defensive operations or realizing strategic retireings from areas to chinese coasts.

i expect why having informative at yours

Section removed from article
I removed the following section, which had been cleanup tagged since May '05, from the article. It appears to discuss the relation between Japanese plans for taking the offensive against Russia, and how these related to the Sichuan offensive, but until somebody who knows what's going on here comes along it should probably be out of the article. --RobthTalk 05:03, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

Still needs work
<-- The following paragraphs are incomprehensible. Need more historic references to validate.-->

These operations were discussed during an Imperial conference in July 1941-42. When analyzed the Strategy lines and plans to solve the Northern Trouble, the Siberian Invasion (Operation Ohtsu) how part of strategies relationed with Outbreak of Russo-German War and your effects in Asian mainland,and approved the circumstances for invading the Soviet Russian lands and for way destroy in definitive form the political danger represent of Communism for Japanese Empire.

These important conference deliberated if are accord with plans of Japanese invasion to Siberia why the Chungking Operation (Sichuan Invasion) had to be suspend or delayed for more later or in other hand these operation mentioned debt to continuing joining at Siberian Invasion.

Incorrect English
This article needs some serious work. I have no idea what some of these sentences mean. It appears that some sections are copied directly from as yet unverified sources. I'll do my best to clarify the links and improve the language of the article, but it's difficult when a sentence contains no verbs! For example, from the second paragraph of the article:

Was an intended final, but failed operation of the Imperial Japanese Army to defeat the Chinese army in Central West China and thus conquer the sovereign nation.

So yeah. More work needs to be done to translate this article into English. -Oatmeal batman 14:22, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Older Version
I don't understand what has happened to this article. There is a clean, informative and comprehensible version of this article dated 27 May 2006 (See here). It has since been replaced with something like a rough translation. If there is actually nothing wrong with the 27 May 2006 version I'd like to refer to it for future edits. Feathered serpent 10:24, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Needs better references
Three of the referenced texts are by Chiang Wei-kuo, and one by Chiang Kai-shek. We need neutral secondary sources (recent ones preferred). For Chiang Kai-shek's adopted son to write a book with the title "How the Generalissimo Chiang Kai Shek Won the Chinese-Japanese Eight Years War,1937–1945" is self-serving and absurd, assuming it's a real book (I assume the title is translated since I get no Google search results for it). --Difference engine (talk) 05:25, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

Requested move 6 December 2017

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The result of the move request was: moved. There is a clear consensus that a page move is necessary, and there is support in this discussion for renaming this article as proposed. Happy Holidays to All! (closed by page mover)  Paine Ellsworth   put'r there 18:56, 27 December 2017 (UTC)

Sichuan invasion → Proposed Japanese invasion of Sichuan – Current title is problematic: Sichuan was invaded numerous times in history (e.g. Song conquest of Later Shu) but never by the Japanese. I Googled "Operation Chongqing", "Chongqing Operation", and "Operation 5" but couldn't find any relevant results. Results for "Chongqing Campaign" are mostly about Bo Xilai's campaigns in 2009-11 (e.g. Chongqing gang trials) Results for "Operation Chungking" are mostly about Chiang Kai-shek's military exercises in Taiwan in the 1960s/1970s. Timmyshin (talk) 22:41, 6 December 2017 (UTC) --Relisting. Sky  Warrior  17:25, 14 December 2017 (UTC)  --Relisting.  Steel1943  (talk) 22:11, 24 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Move to Attempted Japanese invasion of Sichuan as a clearer alternative. The proposed "Proposed" titled seems as if it refers to something that is currently being proposed. —BarrelProof (talk) 19:26, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
 * This is sensible. But there's an article titled Proposed Japanese invasion of Australia during World War II. Timmyshin (talk) 17:57, 18 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Support some kind of move and I find the nominator's proposal favorable. Another option is Planned Japanese invasion of Sichuan (cf. Planned French invasion of Britain (1759)).  —  AjaxSmack  01:07, 20 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Move to Operation 5 - Most of the titles in Category:Cancelled military operations of World_War II use their operation title. As the nominator states, the current title is unsuitable. 79.65.126.84 (talk) 15:15, 20 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Support "Proposed" or "Planned". Oppose Operation 5 as apparently not being the WP:COMMONNAME in English, and failing WP:RECOGNISABLE. 59.149.124.29 (talk) 03:13, 24 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Support "Proposed" or "Planned". Oppose Operation 5 In ictu oculi (talk) 12:02, 25 December 2017 (UTC)


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