Talk:Pruth River Campaign

Jassy or Iași
Should we maybe use the normal Romanian name for this city? I don't know who refers to it as Jassy, but at least Romanians would not know what you mean by that name. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.99.211.179 (talk) 14:13, 18 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Iași is traditionally known as Jassy in many European languages, such as English, French, German, Swedish and even in my own language, Finnish. It's not extraordinary, for example in English Firenze is called Florence and Torino is called Turin. Or speaking of Romanian cities, for example București is known as Bucharest in English. Well known historical cities often have traditional names in different languages which can differ from the language spoken in these particular cities. --Ukas (talk) 07:54, 16 February 2016 (UTC)

Zaporhizie
My atlas says that Zaporhizie belonged to the Ottoman Empire in the years 1711-39, probably after this war. No mention on Wikipedia. --Revery (talk) 08:33, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

Map incorrect
The map shows the R. Dnieper flowing into the Liman at Mayaki - it should be the Dniester! Maelli (talk) 12:34, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

Casualties & Strength
Casualties 8,000 in Ottoman and 38,000 in Russian side must be wrong. The Ottomans suffered more casualties than the Russians, and when the Russians left they still had considerable force. In addition Russians had around 40,000 infantry, 10,000 cavalry, plus Rönne who captured Braila had additional 12,000 men as cavalry and dragoons. These numbers are in E. Anisimov: The Reforms of Peter the Great: Progress through Coercion in Russia and Virginia H. Aksan: Ottoman Wars 1700–1870 --Ukas (talk) 20:10, 24 July 2014 (UTC)


 * E. Anisimov: The Reforms of Peter the Great: Progress through Coercion in Russia, page number(s)...quote?
 * Virginia H. Aksan: Ottoman Wars 1700–1870, page number(s)....quote? --Kansas Bear (talk) 20:53, 24 July 2014 (UTC)


 * According to Aksan's book (pages 95-97, 122-123): Ottoman force: 240,000 men (around 100,000 cavalry, 140,000 infantry), 175 cannons, and casualties unknown, although it's said July 21st alone Janissaries lost 7,000 men - but the battle went on for days and other troops lost men as well, so 8,000 is underestimation for total casualties. Russian force: Peter's army 31,000-33,000 infantry, 7,000 cavalry, artillery unknown plus Cantemir with 5,000 Moldovans, casualties 16,246 men. Rönne with 12,000 cavalry, casualties unknown (there are no numbers of how many men from Ottoman army were defending Braila in Aksan's book). The Ottomans let the Russians go, and also the Moldovans, which had joined Peter's side and were held as traitors by the Ottomans, were allowed to follow the remaining Russian army back to Russia and most of them settled there. Don't have Anisimov's book at hand at the moment, IIRC he offered bigger numbers for Russian side, and an estimation for Ottoman total casualties. --Ukas (talk) 00:34, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
 * C.E. Bosworth, E. van Donzel, W. Heinrichs, Ch. Pellat: The Encyclopaedia of Islam, vol VI, E.J. Brill 1991, ISBN 90-04-08112-7, page 991 says "The Ottomans, reinforced by a large body of Tatars, Cossacks and Polish troops, totalling 120,000 men and 400 guns, were in perfect condition. The Russian army (40,000 infantry, 14,000 horse and 122 guns) had been suffering from lack of food and forage for three weeks." --Ukas (talk) 00:52, 28 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Kansas Bear а later study by Artamonov (2019) (Турецко-русская война 1710–1713 гг. in Russian) indicates 8,000 killed Turks in the battle of Stanilesti, about the same number were wounded and about 5,000 died from the epidemic (page 185-186). The Russians have combat losses of about 3,000 at Stanileshti. During the capture of Braila, the Russians lost 100, the Turks 800. The total losses of the Russians, according to Artamonov and Urlanis, amounted to about 4000 people (page 226). According to Moro's estimates, the losses of the Russians were 38 000 people, but he counted the regiments according to the full list, although the Russians had already entered Moldova in an incomplete composition. Каракорум (talk) 07:11, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
 * , . Каракорум (talk) 09:37, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
 * If you have sourced information, add it to the article, Каракорум. I can not read Russian. --Kansas Bear (talk) 16:31, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

== bro why does it got all removed while I’ve doing that for so long? what the point to doing this hard work on wikipedia while it gonna be just removed? I added official sources that has confirmed the information which I’ve done over there, so what’s the sense to remove that? the Zaporozhian Cossacks was on the both sides, official Ukrainian historians can confirm that, like the Ukrainian Hetman Pylyp Orlyk was there, you can even watch the Ukrainian wikipedia about that campaign. ==

so please take it all what I made before back, thanks. Forward.ops (talk) 15:59, 13 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Forward.ops : Your edit can be found in 'view history', it's not technically gone. When changing several aspects of an article, I would suggest splitting it into several edits and give explanations to each one of them (so that we understand your intentions). Without explanations, edits such as replacing Russo-Turkish wars with Muscovite-Ottoman War (1710–1713), 1710–1711 with 27 May — 12 July, 1711, and Ottoman victory with Defeat of the Muscovites, etc, will likely be reverted. Imonoz (talk) 00:04, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Why? It was part of the Great Northern War and Muscovite-Ottoman War (1710–1713), you can’t just see that in the Ukrainian Wikipedia called “Прутський похід”, all of that I’ve take from that. Forward.ops (talk) 10:38, 14 November 2023 (UTC)