Talk:Psilocybe aztecorum

Microscopy images
Some indication of the magnification, e.g. scale bars, would be useful on these images. And, an image without the graticule of the crush mount might be better if there is one available. Thoughts? Graham Colm (talk) 19:50, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Agree with both your suggestions. I'll try to get in contact with the photographer, Alan Rockefeller, and see if he can help. Sasata (talk) 00:24, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

Entheogenic use
It seems to me that some of the information in the section on usage is in fact about other species, or possibly valid for multiple psilocybe species. For example Frank Lipp's account of the Mixe usage does not specify that this was the aztecorum variety, and it seems unlikely that this variety should grow in Oaxaca since the Oaxaca species found by Wasson are P. mexicana and P. wassonii. ·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 22:02, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
 * You are correct that some of the usage info is valid for multiple species. I'll have a closer look at the Knauth source you added and see what I can do to expand with more species-specific info. Sasata (talk) 23:01, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

Various corrections made
I've made a number of linguistic and ethnographic corrections. Wasson's participation in the ritual ingestion of psilocybe was among the Mazatecs not Mixtecs. Nahuatl is the name of the language not the people who are called Nahua. Aztec is another name for the Nahua people, usually only applied when describing the pre-conquest period, it is now no longer used to describe contemporary Nahua peoples. The translation "flesh of the Gods" is a mistranslation which apparently traces all the way back to the chronicle of Toribio de Benavente Motolinia, and which has since been repeated, by Schulte and others. The word teo:tl means "sacred","divine", "mysterious "or "of the Gods", and the word nanacatl means "mushroom", when compounded (the prefixed noun loses its -tl suffix) that gives something like "sacred mushroom". The mistranslation comes from confusing the word nanacatl "mushroom" with the word nacatl "flesh/meat". Similarly the word apipiltzin means "little water children", and us comoposed of a:tl "water" and pipiltzin, the plural diminutive of pilli "child". The spanish usage niñitos does not correspond directly to the Nahuatl word, but Singer's example is. I've also added a reference to Knauth's article in Estudios de Cultura Nahuatl, which could be used for a major expansion of the section on usage. ·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 22:46, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank-you for the corrections! BTW, Guzman (2008) uses "Nahuatl" as a shorthand (or perhaps as an adjectival form?) for Nahua people, but I agree your corrections make things less ambiguous. I hope to bring Psilocybe zapotecorum to FAC next year, and will probably make many of the same errors due to my unfamiliarity with the region & language ... may I ping you for a critical read when the time comes? Sasata (talk) 22:57, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
 * It is not uncommon that scholars form other fields use the term Nahuatl for the ethnic group as well, but this not strictly speaking a correct usage - and also we have an article on the Nahua people which wasn't linked from the article which only linked to the article on the language. Please do send me a note when P. zapotecorum is up for FAC, I'd be happy to take a read through, and I'm fairly familiar with the ethnographic sources on Indigenous hallucinogen use in Mexico. Well done with this article and congratulations on FA and mainpage. ·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 23:03, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

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Found outside Mexico
It is no longer correct that P aztecorum is known only from high elevations in Mexico. It has been found in the US states of Colorado, Arizona, and Maine, and in Ontario and Quebec, in Canada. 2604:CA00:118:7A3:0:0:61:C3D7 (talk) 10:01, 15 December 2021 (UTC)