Talk:Psychiatric medication

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Duplication of psychiatric drugs?
Hay Stop! This is just a duplication of psychiatric drugs.--Aspro 03:17, 19 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Is this in reference to my recent edit ?
 * I disagree the two topics are duplications of one another (although currently pages are confusing and poorly distinguished)
 * I agree the other page is more substantial, but I think the terms are different - namely Psychiatric drugs (which redirects to Psychopharmacology) is about any substances having an effect on the brain (whether those used by doctors, or illegal drugs such as LSD), whereas 'Psychaitric Medications' suggests a subset of chemicals that are clinically used by psychiatrists (& other doctors) specifically to treate a psychiatric illness (ie these are treatments rather than just having an unspecified effect on brain).
 * I suspect that specific sections on drugs in Psychiatric drugs/Psychopharmacology be moved:
 * Psychopharmacology is the study of Psychoactive drugs, so details on specific drugs should be not be under under a scientific discipline, but rather under a subject matter (ie links from the main page of Psychoactive drugs) (this is like moving 'limestone' inappropriately under 'geology', to a more sensible sub-level under 'types of rocks')
 * Those drugs used therapeutically would be better under the sub-topic of Psychiatric Medications (linked to by main 'Psychoactive drug' page).
 * Those drugs not used clinically should refered to from the 'Psychoactive drug' page (with details not duplicated from individual topic pages and perhaps Controlled drug). David Ruben Talk 03:59, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

Psychiatric medications is now psychopharmacology
It looks like this problem has worked itself out. This article, psychiatric medication, is an article about the medication. Psychopharmacology is the general study of drug-induced changes in mood, thinking, and behavior. Chupper 16:17, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Move
I'm moving this article from "Psychiatric medications" to "Psychiatric medication" to keep it consistent with other medication articles. Chupper 16:17, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Additional Content
I've moved some content from psychopharmacology that more directly relates to this article. The psychopharmacology article deals with "the study of", whereas this article deals with the specific physical medication.

Further additions would be helpful as well as the addition of inline cites (which I'll also try to work on myself). Chupper 16:17, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Interwiki or not?
We at the Dutch Wikipedia have 'psychofarmacon' (Psychopharmacon) is this the same? F r e e style (NL) 12:18, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
 * If you're talking about the actual medication, this is the article for an interwiki. If that word or article is for psychopharmacologoy, I recommend you go there. Chupper 17:13, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

®
I vote that we remove all the ®, there's no need for it, we don't have to pay liberty to the manufacturers.24.1.90.250 17:26, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

"Types" order
Why are the types initially listed in one order, then discussed at length in another? This seems unnecessarily confusing and easily fixable--except that the initial overview lists "Depressants" yet there is no corresponding subtopic. (Additionally, the overview mentions hallucinogenics as a side note, yet they receive a subtopic in the middle of the other, less-controversial categories.) Geromybob (talk) 08:33, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

Inclusion of psychedelics
Psychedelics are not novel treatments as argued in User:Formerly 98 reversion comments. Only scientifically vigorous clinical study to develop them as legal medications is novel. They have a long history of clinical use (and ancient history of psychological use before clinical psychology or psychiatry even existed). Furthermore, many if not most of the drugs on this page would not even exist if it was not for LSD research. Additionally, the research so far shows them to be much more effective both in the short and long term than other drugs on this page. —a thing 00:00, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Plus, the research is receiving a lot of coverage in mainstream press. See . —a thing 00:04, 1 June 2014 (UTC)

Several problems here.


 * The first paragraph is sourced only by reference to a self published source from an advocacy group. This is not permitted per WP:MEDRS or even by the more relaxed standards of the general wikipedia reliable source guidelines. See WP:SELFPUBLISH and the MEDRS page.


 * "Research so far shows them to be much more effective both in the short and long term than other drugs on this page" - I don't think you can even come close to saying that given that the trials have only included 70 or so people, the blinding of the investigators and subjects to treatment was extremely questionable, the president of an advocacy group for psychedelics reseearch served investigator role and analyzing the final data, and about 15% dropped out of the trials for adverse effects.


 * The LSD question doesn't really bear on the issue we are disucussing, but in any case, it has been seriously evaluated as a "legal medication for the treatment of psychiatric disorders" Thats why the FDA required its withdrawal.

Formerly 98 (talk) 04:13, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I hear you about the references. I wrote the initial section rather quickly and realize it should be improved. I'll work on that when I have more time. I'm confident I can find appropriate references. Thank you for putting the notice in there rather than just removing the whole section. —a thing 08:51, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

Second-Generation and Atypical Antipsychotics
The two types of antipsychotics are first and second generation. ezp.tccd.edu/login?url=http://go.galegroup.com.ezp.tccd.edu/ps/i.do?p=HRCA&sw=w&u=txshracd2560&v=2.1&it=r&id=GALE%7CA400038654&asid=6f8a3e36dc9e85096a139beaab8a9eb0 Nia.wil (talk) 16:19, 6 December 2017 (UTC)

Recent edits
This is to address your recent edits that I have reversed. Please see below:

''"Neuroleptics and antidepressants cause parkinsonism and iatrogenic extrapiramidal syndrome, that are irreversible." '' Most forms of extrapyramidal symptoms (dystonia, akathisia, pseudoparkinsonism) are reversible. Even tardive dyskinesia, which can be irreversible, usually is reversible. The term "neuroleptic" is outdated. Antidepressants are not common causes of EPS.

''"They cause bilateral symptoms, such as diskinesia mouth-tongue, bradykinesia, akinesia with akathisia (the person has difficulty to move, but feels the urge to move, he stands up and sits down continuously), hypertonia, postural instability and dysarthria." '' See above.

''"These drugs are neurotoxic since they decrease brain volume and cause cancer in the brain." '' Antipsychotic-related decreases in brain volume is already addressed in the article. This oversimplification is harmful, and does not reflect the current state of the literature. The claim that psychiatric medications (likely referring to antipsychotics) cause "cancer in the brain," citing a page on prolactinomas, is also misleading. Antipsychotic-induced hyperprolactinemia is not the same as prolactinoma-induced hyperprolactinemia.

''"Antidepressants and benzodiazepines double probability of dementia." '' This is far too simplistic of a statement, and does not reflect the conflicting literature on the relationship between certain psychiatric medications and the risk of developing dementia. In particular, note the significant limitations of a retrospective research article. The authors themselves note, "we could not claim causality between antidepressant medication and dementia." Wikipedia should reflect medical consensus, not fringe positions.

I hope that clears up my edits. Please reach out to me, here or on my Talk page, if you have any suggestions for improving the article.― Bio chemistry 🙴 ❤   23:19, 13 August 2020 (UTC)