Talk:Psychogenic pain

Wiki Education assignment: Psychology Capstone
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Similarity/ties to conversion disorder, and maybe even somatic symptom disorder?
Although this is a symptom rather than a disorder, from the reading ive been doing back a fourth they do seem to have some similarities. However i do beleive it is different enough from them to have its own page, at-least from what i can tell. (apologies if this reads poorly) ¿V0!d? {Have a great day!} 19:52, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

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— Assignment last updated by BrownBoy1999 (talk) 15:46, 25 September 2023 (UTC)</span Many articles questioning the history of the term "psychogenic pain"≈≈≈≈

Fallacy in controversy
The words "the implication that the pain is entirely psychological and thus not 'real'" don't make any sense. This seems to be a statement entirely depending on how vague the word "psychological" is defined, to leave room for avoiding specificity and hence relying on emotional arguments that have no basis in reality.

The only thing close to "what this seems to be based on" is a misapplied definition of the word psychological.. "Without an objective, or reasonably logical foundation." from psychological. While that definition can be applied in a case of distinguishing a false hypothesis from a confirmed one, in this medical case it doesn't actually make any sense. As psychological is biologically tied to brain function, as the brain is a sort of "logic muscle" acting like a compression and decompression algorithm, saying "that psychological can be treated as entirely seperate from objective" is nonsense. That is like saying "electricity can be seen as entirely separate from a conductor", in theory, sure it can be thought it like that, but in reality it is impossible for electricity to "happen without a conductor".

The ICD-11 definition "Pain is always a personal experience that is influenced to varying degrees by biological, psychological, and social factors." seems to define "real" as having "an objective one directional cause of the pain". But those are two distinct things, the pain being "caused by something real" versus the pain itself being real. Wallby (talk) 12:13, 29 March 2024 (UTC)