Talk:Psychopathography of Adolf Hitler

Needs some help from an expert
I find it really strange that there is an article of "Psychopathography of Adolf Hitler" and no article for "Psychopathography" in general. Is that the right term for what this article is about? I see it's been translated from German. But results on Google don't show much for this word other than old definitions and this page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.21.97.251 (talk) 05:22, 27 October 2015 (UTC)


 * I don't think it's a good title. Perhaps the Mental health of Adolf Hitler instead?--Jack Upland (talk) 05:59, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

Thank you
Thank you for creating this article. Last year, I queried why Hitler's psychology was barely mentioned while there was a whole article about his sexuality. I was told basically that the topic wasn't mainstream. Yet we even had an article on his dog, Blondi!!!--Jack Upland (talk) 09:03, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Psychoactive drug use
There are two only sources backing up the claim that "Hitler regularly consumed methamphetamine, barbiturates, amphetamine, opiates and cocaine":

1. Nassir Ghaemi. *A First-Rate Madness: Uncovering the Links Between Leadership and Mental Illness* - This is a book by one man who does not specialize in World War II or Hitler or anything like that and lacks primary sources; in fact, the reviews on the book indicate Mr. Ghaemi fills his book with unreliable hypotheses.

2. "Adolf Hitler 'Took Cocktail of Drugs' Reveal New Documents", by IBNews, which is just an unprofessional-toned article whose only source is a National Geographic "documentary" on daytime TV. Even *then*, the article specifies Hitler was only given small doses of cocaine to clear his sinuses etc., which was a common treatment back in the day. Same goes for the other drugs. This is carrying the modern connotation that Hitler was shooting up and snorting in the alleys of Berlin.

I have tagged the two sources appropriately please fix these claims or find specific, reliable, objective sources on Hitler's alleged drug use.--  Sıgehelmus   (Talk) &#124;д=)  01:52, 28 February 2016 (UTC)

Additional infos about Hitler's medical lost file?
These additionals info (2 letters + Bernhard Lustig's testimony) have been apparently (*) published only in the 2011/09/29 paperback version of this book "Hitler's First War Adolf Hitler, the Men of the List Regiment, and the First World War" Thomas Weber ISBN : 9780199226382 (*) I don't have access to this book!

Excerpts from this article (2011/10/21 HITLER'S WAR BOAST EXPOSED AS A MYTH Unpublished letters disprove claim that he was blinded in action by a British mustard gas attack https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/history/hitlers-war-boast-exposed-as-a-myth-2373590.html Here is a similar article : Hitler's war boast is a lie, letters show https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/8840279/Hitlers-war-boast-is-a-lie-letters-show.html )

"(...)Letters written by two prominent American neurologists cast serious doubts on Hitler's mental state at the end of the First World War, confirming that he was treated for "hysterical amblyopia", a psychiatric disorder known as "hysterical blindness".(...) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hysterical_Blindness https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conversion_disorder ''(...)The letters, written in 1943, recall that Otfrid Förster, a renowned neurosurgeon, told each of the Americans in the 1930s that he had inspected Hitler's medical file from Pasewalk military hospital in Germany in 1918. He told them the file clearly showed that Hitler had been treated for hysterical blindness. (...) Other new evidence brought to Dr Weber's attention following his book came from Bernhard Lustig, a Jewish veteran from Hitler's regiment who emigrated to Palestine in 1933. Lustig said that "in none of their encounters had Hitler displayed any anti-Semitic tendencies... nor any leadership qualities"."''

Otfrid Foerster (Otfrid Förster) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otfrid_Foerster

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Foster_Kennedy I did not find a wikipedia entry for Victor Gonda.

One of the 2 letters : https://figgseyeclinic.com/2015/09/16/hitlers-psychogenic-amblyopia-during-the-great-war/

A critical review of the book https://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/R2QT33TUOXW8J2/

I am not an expert, so in your opinion is there anything here worth to be included in wikipedia ? Thanks in advance Jurbop (talk) 06:05, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

Terminology - Mental disorder vs personality disorder
Consistent with today's nomenclature, references to schizophrenia and psychosis should be termed "mental illness," but psychopathy and borderline personality are "personality disorders," not mental illnesses. 199.116.241.58 (talk) 04:05, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes, I believe that's right.--Jack Upland (talk) 08:17, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
 * The term "mental illness" can be stretched to include just about any deviation from the norm. When I read remarks in the comment sections of online news articles suggesting the gender dysphoria is a mental illness I attempt to explain, without much success, that it is not mental illness in the sense of schizophrenia being mental illness, or psychosis, but rather it is a personality disorder driven in most cases by envy of the opposite sex. 2600:8801:BE01:2500:F45B:FCC9:DC39:5DCF (talk) 02:24, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

See also: Goldwater Rule
None of these people examined him, so how can they really know? Grassynoel (talk) 15:36, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
 * The amount of available data on Hitler's behavior would fill a tractor trailer, sufficient to give experts enough evidence to express opinions on Hit;er's pyschopathography.Note also that the Goldwater rule was as much a political move to protect the APA as it was a professional behavioral guideline. It is, in any case, only pertinent to members of the APA, many of whom disagree with it, and see the need for psychological professionals to speak out about dangerous personalities when they enter the public political realm. Beyond My Ken (talk) 04:10, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

Dangerous Leader Disorder?
This page lists Hitler as having been alleged to have a condition called Dangerous Leader Disorder. There is no link to such a condition and I am highly skeptical that such a condition exists. Is this some sort of troll who made an edit? 50.117.235.152 (talk) 00:09, 29 July 2023 (UTC)
 * The text is sourced, has been here for years, and I can't see any evidence of trolling.--Jack Upland (talk) 02:52, 29 July 2023 (UTC)