Talk:Public school (United Kingdom)

Clarification requested
"Until the war, the role of public schools in preparing pupils for the gentlemanly elite meant that such education, particularly in its classical focus and social mannerism, became a mark of the ruling class."
 * 5.1 Associations with the ruling class

The reference may be : Journal Article The Gentleman Ideal and the Maintenance of a Political Elite: Two Case Studies: Confucian Education in the Tang, Sung, Ming and Ching Dynasties; and the Late Victorian Public Schools (1870-1914) Rupert H. Wilkinson Sociology of Education Vol. 37, No. 1 (Autumn, 1963), pp. 9-26 Published by: American Sociological Association DOI: 10.2307/2112137 https://www.jstor.org/stable/2112137 This needs a JSTOR account in order to check. I am not sure if the concept should be manners, or mannerisms but not mannerism (singular) ClemRutter (talk) 18:06, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia Library gives out free JSTOR subscriptions to active editors. see https://wikipedialibrary.wmflabs.org/partners/ Rjensen (talk) 18:20, 9 July 2020 (UTC)


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Link to List of Victoria Crosses by School
I note the link to the above list was deleted on 4/10/21, when the list itself was deleted. I am disappointed to see this list disappear. It was deleted, noting the discussion, on grounds of 'lack of notability', 'advertising/marketing/puffery', 'trivia'. It is too late for me to join the deletion discussion but I do fundamentally disagree. The value of the list is being part of UK and Commonwealth social and economic history evidencing the role of (mostly) public schools in proving the officer class in the UK armed forces. Indeed it also shows how officers may well be over represented as recipients of this medal. I am unsure how this deletion may be appealed.Hjamesberglen

Definition
I am removing (temporarily) the ISIS definiition of 1981. I eventually sourced this. It is a 22 page A5 size booklet (40 pence at the time!). The definition used in the article is heavily paraphrased or even embellished from that of the booklet. In short, as it stands it is not a good citation. Unfortunately I do not have this little gem with me at the moment and I may be a month away from seeing it again. When I get access again I will cite the correct ISIS definition of 1981. Also I am reformatting in sequence and also style. Hjamesberglen (talk) 18:41, 13 January 2023 (UTC)


 * that's fine, I don't see it as a showstopper for the GAN. If you can tidy up the lists of schools overseas and of TV documentaries - we just need a couple of cited lines about the topics, not primary-cited lists of examples in each case - we can proceed to GA. Chiswick Chap (talk) 18:51, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

The "public" in public school
Public schools were originally so named because they were operated by the people, in contradistinction to church schools, which weren't. This should be included in the lead paragraph; instead of being squeezed out like juice from a recalcitrant lemon later in the article. Nuttyskin (talk) 16:10, 23 September 2023 (UTC)