Talk:Puddle of Mudd

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Most musicians/bands in the wikipedia don't have their discographies in a table format- for the sake of consistency wouldn't the discography be better laid out as a list as in the case of most other bands? Not that i'm going to war over it :-) quercus robur 23:45 Jan 19, 2003 (UTC)

I agree with you - if nothing else, putting things in tables makes them harder to edit

(at least for thickos like me who don't understand the table syntax). I'll change it over to a list. I think plain bullet-pointed lists look nicer anyway. --Camembert

Can someone have a look at the changes I've made? Makes more sense to me than the prior revision, but though I know there's that whole passing a tape to Fred Durst story, I'm not a fan and don't really know it fully. Jimregan 04:55 Apr 29, 2003 (UTC)

I think this might need a bit of NPOV'ing.

Southern Rock?
I am 50/50 on adding Southern Rock, but i can see a obvious Lynyrd Skynyrd Influence. I will not add it, i will see if anybody agree's. 81.96.254.143 (talk) 17:31, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Copyright!
I deleted a large section of text because it was directly copied from


 * Why is that an issue? As long as the information is factual, and referenced, why can't it be copied? We aren't writing a term paper here, the goal of Wikipedia is to spread factual information, not to write "original" articles... Supaikku 23:52, 18 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Not quite. It's an issue because the goal of Wikipedia is to spread factual information that is compliant with the GFDL. Read the page about copyright violations. --BennyD (talk) 22:45, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Name of band
Is it true that the group added another 'D' to their name in case a real 'puddle of mud' sued them for copyright ?!!

I have heard rumors that this is true, but rumors are rumors. Besides, I don't really care about copyright(unless I'm writing something myself) stuff. Prepsear (talk) 15:33, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Derek R Bullamore 21:10, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Wow, non-neutral POV.
So I just deleted a section that accused them of being "talentless". Way to keep NPOV, folks.

Yeah, but the rest of the article is non-neuteal anyway, so to be fair you'd kind of have to delete the entire thing. 68.192.53.216 09:50, 30 October 2006 (UTC)


 * I'd say a band as terrible as Puddle of Mudd should really be excused from the NPOV rule, but yeah, you're right: this article isn't NPOV anyway; it has a bias towards the band. --HisSpaceResearch 14:07, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

There should at least be a "criticism" or "critical reception" section, because this band gets A LOT of criticism (almost as much as Nickelback). This article basically just gives a history of the band, with no information about how they sound. Deepfryer99 18:07, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

I deleted a sentence in the early years section (There was too much trouble at stake for him in Kansas City and it was time to move on). Cliche? Pointless? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.42.190.98 (talk) 19:39, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

History
The history section is a complete mess. It needs to be written in chronological order. I will be making some major changes soon. Such a major band deserves more than this rabble of a page. Jason f90 12:18, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Suggestion: the mainstream success portion of History contains the statement "Copies of their album were selling like hot cakes nation and worldwide." I feel this sentence should be removed as it is needless fluff. Comments? --Kfanciulli 05:50, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Wes Scantlin did not have a band break up before contacting Fred Durst. I'm from KC and know Wes personally. Durst told Scantlin he had to drop his band or lose the record deal. He chose the record deal. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.76.189.110 (talk) 18:46, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

Major Changes
I've tidied up the whole article and insert MUCH more info. Also, previous band members,demos,etc. Check it out. Jason f90 15:18, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 22:20, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

New single
I don't think "We Don't Have to Look Back Now" is confirmed as a single yet. If you want to prove it is confirmed, then make a ref. to it. Although I think this song is in the running for 3rd single, along with "Radiate" and "I'm So Sure"... --Crocodileman (talk) 19:46, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Nu Metal
What the hell is all this nonsense on this page saying Puddle Of Mudd are Nu Metal. They arent even metal lol. As far as I know this band are mainly Post Grunge and Alt Rock even look on the albums pages and see for yourself. 86.136.0.21 (talk) 16:51, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
 * No, they aren't metal. And nor is "nu metal". So I don't see a problem. Prophaniti (talk) 19:01, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Well if they are supposedly Nu Metal then since when have they ever rapped or even sounded like nu metal then??? 86.136.0.21 (talk) 19:32, 17 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Again, a common misconception: nu metal does not depend on a band rapping/using turntables/having clear hip hop style. Most people dispute the genre a lot because of misconceptions about what it actually consists of. As is the case with most musical genres, really. Prophaniti (talk) 20:08, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

I've added alternative rock and post-grunge in, even though they aren't sourced, to see if that will stop this constant reverting. Prophaniti (talk) 21:56, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

I think you'll find there is a source for Post Grunge ---> |OF|MUDD&sql=11:anfrxqekldae~T1 86.166.250.165 (talk) 23:10, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

There is now, indeed. So there's no issue with keeping it in, good. Prophaniti (talk) 19:01, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

The source states that they are Alternative Metal aswell so keep that in too.86.136.1.229 (talk) 22:07, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

theres no way puddle of mudd is nu metal. They dont even approach it. They have no variety of metallic, hip-hoppish, rap, alt-metal, or any other variety of typical nu-metal features. There a post-grunge band all the way trough. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.115.31.13 (talk) 19:42, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Yeah I thought the same too but I guess as longs as Prophaniti has a source unfortunatley there is nothing we can do about it, as this site is often too reliant on sources.86.149.96.211 (talk) 18:12, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

This source says they derive influence from Nu metal: http://www.spiritus-temporis.com/nu-metal/grunge-post-grunge-and-nu-metal.html Drgreen19 (talk) 21:24, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

Puddle Of Mudd aren't Nu Metal
PUDDLE OF MUDD aren't Nu Metal but are Alternative Rock/Metal Hard rock and Post-Grunge —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.2.134.69 (talk) 17:12, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

Metal? they arnt even metal! lets just call em Alternative Rock/Hard Rock/Post Grunge/Grunge (early) it seems more practical. 81.96.254.143 (talk) 07:11, 7 January 2010 (UTC)


 * I just learned I'd had them confused with Default this whole time. Default isn't any sort of metal. InedibleHulk (talk) 16:17, 16 March 2016 (UTC)

Awards & Nominations
In an effort to move this article towards Featured Article status, I have cited each of their nominations/wins. There was only one that I was unable to confirm: their 2002 Billboard Music Awards nomination for Best Group/duo album artist of the year. Because this could not be referenced, it has been removed. Namosin (talk) 12:26, 13 October 2013 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 29 March 2016
The band did not quit on stage in Doncaster. The band and Wes walked off stage *together* prior to their encore, but only Wes returned to the stage. In videos from that night, Wes is seen saying the band quit, but Puddle of Mudd performed the remaining five shows of their UK tour.

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Given that, why are those three band members now listed under "former band members"? Bdure (talk) 00:56, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
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Please see the official PoM twitter: https://twitter.com/puddleofmudd/status/714988048635670530.

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