Talk:Puja (Hinduism)/Archive 1

Problems
This is often less of a ritual and more of a prolonged prayer. Also, the "chanting" is not always done by a priest. I don't want to directly edit this article but it needs a full rewrite. —Preceding unsigned comment added by DotShell (talk • contribs)

More Problems (?)
The image "Prasad to be Offered to God for Puja" may be mislabeled. My understanding is that Prasad is offered to devotees and Bhog is offered to Gods. One does not offer Prasad to Gods. Prahlad 108 (talk) 16:59, 19 January 2009 (UTC) '''

Well, then what is a ritual?
The above comment seems to suggest splitting hairs. If puja is not a ritual, then I'm not sure what is. I suspect the author of that comment has some sort of subjective dislike of the term "ritual" that isn't based on its full religious AND sociological definition. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.235.44.112 (talk • contribs)

There is considerable debate about what is a ritual and what is not, found for example in the Bhagavad Gita, and also in modern scholarship. The relevant work can be cited if appropriate to an encyclopaedia style article (which is what Wikipedia is supposed to supply. (Please read the WIKI guidelines.) The point here is that Wikipedia is not a place to settle research issues, it is a place to record the current state of research and understanding on particular topics. This is the nature of the Wikipedia forum, it is not a place to advance an interpretation or present new findings. Again, kindly refer to the guidelines. Moreover, this article seems to have attracted a lot of edits and comments from people who do not sign their comments or edits, and many of these can be identified as "vandalism" --Shirazibustan (talk) 10:15, 3 February 2013 (UTC)Shirazibustan

Request for help assessing material newly added to Puja (Buddhism)
In Puja (Buddhism), a new anon user recently added (21:18, 26 April 2008) the following material to the section on "Bows":


 * These puja's are celebrated to bless the person who is having the puja and the place that they're having it at. Also the people who attened will be blessed. puja's are also juhndies(jun-dees). Juhndies bless the person who is having it. Also, juhndies can last a few hours or a few minutes. the longest amount of time that juhndie is would be 5-6 hours. These juhndies are also at mundere(mun deer). Mundere is hindu church where hindu's sit on the floor ,ontop of blankets, we pray to the gods below them. this way we will be truly blessed.

And, in the section on "Offerings":


 * Hindu's will bring their offerings to a nearby beach to give the gods and godesses. Offreing is a great way of showing care for the gods.

Could someone please help assess whether or not the entirety of this material is in fact Hinduism-specific. (I've left a similar post at Talk:Puja (Buddhism).) Thank you very much for any feedback,

Larry Rosenfeld (talk) 14:55, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Name of this page should be Puja (Hinduism)
The name of this page should be changed to Puja (Hinduism). This page is about puja in Hinduism, not puja in general. There should be a new page named Puja, about puja in all of the religions that practice puja, with links to articles about puja in the other religions. Each page on puja in one religion should link to the pages on puja in the other religions.

Puja is practiced in: Buddhism, Hinduism, Jainism, Sikhism.

Jain historical roots of puja Jain "Puja is a specifically Jain concept, arising from the Kannada words, "pu" (flower) and "ja" (offering)."

Offering of prasad in Sikhism Prasad Kara Parshad

Google searches buddhist puja jain puja sikh puja

I have added links to the "See also" section of this page: Puja_(Buddhism) and Jain

Please change the name of this page to Puja (Hinduism). Then a new page named Puja can be created.

Jordan Rothstein

Factual accuracy
This article is not only completely unreferenced but also factually inaccurate, in that it is unduly dogmatic about how puja is/should be performed. Almost all the sections after the lead are written as a prescriptive essay. Looking at the article history, most of the well-intentioned but problematic content was added in a single edit in November 2007 by. Any suggestions on how to improve the article; should we revert to the pre-Nov 2007 version ? Abecedare (talk) 04:14, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I agree that this article needs major work and is questionable in its accuracy. Also agree with someone above who suggested that a new article on simply puja should be created. Puja exists in many forms, and a general article is needed. ChemistryProf (talk) 16:15, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

Changes to the lede
To adjust the definition and lede to fit a broader range of pujas that occur within traditions related to the Veda, I am adding a few words and deleting the specific reference to Hindus. One need not be Hindu to perform these ceremonies. These changes simply clarify the meaning without altering the basic content of the lede or the article. ChemistryProf (talk) 16:40, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Every source I see refers to it as a Hindu or, more rarely, a Buddhist practice. There may be a third form of puja, some thing secular, perhaps, but we'd need a source for that and perhaps it's belong in a different article. The title of this article is "Puja (Hinduism)". Unless there's a source or some good reason otherwise, I'm going to restore the reference to Hindus.   Will Beback    talk    10:50, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

Origin and textual explanation
It appears that the explanation for Puja has been constructed from barbaric colonial times, with offerings to guests as basic premise that has been later extended to temples. Such kind of word jugglery should not be encouraged on wikipedia.111.91.75.16 (talk) 11:07, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

The comment immediately above is correct: research, as it stands to date, shows that pūjā began as offerings to guests (as given in Vedic texts) and was later extended to temples. The section on origins has been reverted accordingly. Some earlier changes to this section are nothing short of vandalism according to WIKI guidelines. This sort of thing does not really have a place in the WIKI community. It's a free world, for the most part, and everyone is entitled to start a blog if they don't like the way Wikipedia works. --Zippymarmalade (talk) 11:06, 3 February 2013 (UTC)Zippymarmalade

"pu" is misunderstood and wrongly interpreted.

This is the correct etymology of "pu":

"pu" is a Tamil word.

pu means: emerge form inside or go inside depending on the situation.

There are many words with "pu"

first word is pu: flower

pu: a sound produced when blowing out => air is emerging out of the mouth. this is the origin of the root word.

pur: go inside.

pu: emerge, as in flower

puku: get inside

puthu: anything that emerged fresh = new.

pulu: a worm that emerge from the ground.

puluthi: dust emerges (comes) out from any substance.

pukai: smoke, that comes out

pull: a bird, that emerges out from grass, or from ground.

pul: grass, that comes out of the ground.

pun: a wound on the skin - a wound, a hole.

puththu: a cancer, that emerges out from inside the cell

puththu: an ant mound that emerges out from the ground

puraan: a centipede that hides under something.

punai: cat that scrolls into smaller

punai: coining a word, sentence, poem

pudam: grow, coat, cover something with

puthinam: news that emerges out

puram: opposite of aham (akam = inside) => pura => puri => pur = a place, a city

pulam: light (or any field) comes from inside

pusaaththu (verb): pu saaththu = flower offering => pusa => pusai => puja (borowed by Sanskrit). pu + ja = what is "ja" in sanskrit or in any langauge? it is deformed word of Tamil pusaa.

saaththu: offer => giving anything => also beating somebody (colloquial, informal language)

pusai: offering => smearing (found in wikipedia) - an informal language, is not the real meaning.

Reffrence: Sankam Literatures.

its all Tamil! other languages borrowed from Tamil without knowing the root meaning.

there are more, hundreds of them. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.228.73.173 (talk) 20:47, 16 October 2019 (UTC)