Talk:Purple Rain (album)/GA1

GA Review
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Reviewer: K. Peake (talk · contribs) 04:12, 14 August 2020 (UTC)

I will take this on soon, maybe later today but either way it will probably come in stages since the article is very large. Good luck with getting a passed article here! --K. Peake 04:12, 14 August 2020 (UTC)

Infobox and lead

 * Cover art needs alt text
 * Maybe the recording dates should list 1981 since one of the songs from the album was recorded then; take The Life of Pablo as an example of this situation
 * Should the infobox say psychedelic or psychedelia?
 * Target Warner Bros. to Warner Records
 * Remove wikilink on studio album as it is too obvious
 * "recording artist Prince, released on June 25, 1984, by" → "recording artist Prince. It was released on June 25, 1984, through"
 * Remove wikilink on soundtrack
 * Remove [1] from the lead since that is backed up in the body even though the wording is different
 * "Purple Rain was musically denser than Prince's previous albums," → "The album was musically denser than Prince's previous ones,"
 * "full band performances, and multiple layers" → "full band performances as well as multiple layers"
 * "generally regarded as the most pop-oriented of" → "mostly regarded as the most pop-oriented from" to avoid repetitive wording
 * "more experimental records Prince would release after Purple Rain." → "more experimental albums Prince would release after it." with the appropriate target
 * "for the album's lead single" → "for the lead single" with the appropriate wikilink
 * "sparked controversy among network executives, who thought" → "drew controversy from network executives, with them thinking"
 * "the Parents Music Resource Center and contributed" → "the Parents Music Resource Center, and contributed"
 * "and imprints on album covers." → "as well as imprints on album covers."
 * "Prince's first album to reach number one on the" → "Prince's first chart topper on the US"
 * "The album spent 24 consecutive weeks atop on the" → "It spent 24 consecutive weeks atop the"
 * ""When Doves Cry" and" → ""When Doves Cry" and the single" with the target
 * "reached number one the" → "both reached number one on the"
 * "while "Purple Rain" peaked at number two and "I Would Die 4 U" peaked at number eight." → "while the singles "Purple Rain" and "I Would Die 4 U" peaked at number two and eight on the chart, respectively." since it should be specified in the lead which songs were singles
 * Platinum should not have capitalisation
 * "the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA). Its total sales" → "the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) in the United States. The total sales"
 * "while Prince also won the" → "while Prince also received the"
 * Target music critics to Music journalism
 * "noted the innovative and experimental aspects of the soundtrack's music," → "pointed out the innovative and experimental aspects of the soundtrack's music,"
 * "on the spare, bass-less" → "on the spare and bass-less"
 * "especially its synthesis" → "most notably its synthesis"
 * Target electronic to Electronic music since the first mention is not the correct context but this is
 * "along with its consolidation" → "alongside the consolidation"
 * "were identified by critics as distinguishing, even" → "were identified as distinguishing by critics, even"
 * "is regularly ranked among" → "has been regularly ranked among"
 * Overall, I noticed the issue of using identical phrasing to the body a lot.

Background

 * Retitle to Background and recording
 * "contained the credits" → "contains the credits"
 * ", though he had teased" → "However, he had teased"
 * "two years earlier on" → "two years earlier with his fifth studio album"
 * "The album was mostly recorded" → "Purple Rain was mostly recorded"
 * "the exception being" → "with the exception of"
 * ""Baby I'm A Star" and the title" → ""Baby I'm A Star", and the title"
 * "at the 3 August 1983, First Avenue show in Mineappolis," → "at the First Avenue show in Mineappolis on August 3, 1983,"
 * Does the "Purple Rain" info at the start of the second para refer to the album or the song? If it is the song, then keep in speech marks but if the title, then remove them and italicise the mention of it as the title. I am asking this because I cannot access the books myself.
 * "from lyrics in the" → "from lyrics of the"
 * Add release year of the song in brackets
 * "in "Ventura Highway,"" → "in "Ventura Highway","
 * Even after reading the NME ref, I am not sure if he is referencing the song's title or album's; switch if the album but keep in speech marks otherwise
 * "and intended to be" → "and originally intended to be"
 * Introduce who Stevie Nicks is
 * "She said:" → "Nicks said:"
 * "then asked his backing band to try" → "asked his backing band to try playing" since "then" sounds out of place in this context even if it was afterwards
 * "after the Revolution's Wendy Melvoin" → "after Wendy Melvoin of the band"
 * "guitar chords to accompany the song:" → "guitar chords to accompany it:" with the wikilink
 * "for the Apollonia 6 album Apollonia 6 (1984)," → "for Apollonia 6's self-titled studio album (1984)," since it reads very tedious otherwise
 * "The inclusion of that song" → "The inclusion of the song"
 * Wikilink "Computer Blue"
 * "did not earn an official release," → "was not officially released,"
 * "can be heard in the film of the same name," → "is featured in the drama film Purple Rain (1984)," with the target and this is because you have not mentioned the album's title apart from the previous sentence so "of the same name" reads confusingly
 * "on the men of the Revolution" → "on the male members of the Revolution"
 * "The risqué lyrics of" → "The risqué lyrics of the track"
 * Mention what record label you are referencing
 * Wikilink lead single
 * "were complete on" → "were completed for"
 * Target bass line to Bassline
 * "is noted for being" → "was noted for being"
 * Target 1980s pop to 1980s in music
 * "originally was a bass line but, after" → "was originally a bass line, though after"

Composition

 * Retitle to Composition and lyrics
 * Maybe add more about the themes and lyrics if you can?
 * The Revolution → the Revolution per MOS:THEMUSIC on the audio sample text
 * Also, there is no full stop at the end of the text which is grammar issues and you should add some info about the song here since it is not covered in the prose of the section, so write about that on the sample's text
 * "than Prince's previous albums," → "than his previous albums,"
 * "performances, and multiple layers" → "performances and multiple layers"
 * "and other instruments." → "among other instruments."
 * "even—by some evaluations—a" → "even, by some evaluations,"
 * Target experimental to Experimental music
 * "Prince would release after" → "Prince went on to release after"
 * "she told Prince," → "she told Prince:"
 * "you’re going to" → "you're going to"
 * Target Oscar to Academy Awards
 * "Melvoin told Mojo in 1997" → "Melvoin explained to Mojo in 1997"
 * "Revolution members Fink, Coleman, and Melvoin helped write the album's" → "Fink, Coleman, and Melvoin helped write Purple Rain's"
 * Remove wikilink on "Computer Blue"
 * "Doctor Fink, who wrote" → "Fink, who wrote"
 * Target bridge to Bridge (music)
 * Should Father's Song have apostrophes around it or not from the quoted context?
 * [16] should solely be at the end of the sentence after [15]
 * ""Baby I'm A Star" and "Purple Rain" while" → ""Baby I'm A Star", and "Purple Rain", while"
 * "of the tracks" → "of the tracks on the album" for proper context
 * "sings co-lead on" → "is a co-lead singer on"
 * "and Prince which were conducted" → "and Prince, with the section being conducted"
 * "Coleman and Melvoin:" → "Coleman and Melvoin;"
 * "are violin and viola player" → "were violin and viola player"
 * "and cellists David Coleman" → "alongside cellists David Coleman"

Release

 * Begin this section with a sourced sentence about the album's release date
 * "the week of July 14, 1984." → "for the week of July 14, 1984."
 * Shouldn't you mention the first week sales?
 * "After four weeks on chart," → "After four weeks on the chart,"
 * "at number one on the Billboard 200 from" → "at the summit of the Billboard 200, from"
 * "being the only artists to have the number-one" → "being one of the only artists to have the number one"
 * Target single to Single (music)
 * "in the US all at the same time." → "in the US simultaneously."
 * "It traded the number one position on the chart" → "Purple Rain traded the top position of the Billboard 200"
 * "during 1984 and 1985." → "during 1984 and 1985, respectively."
 * "the Billboard 200 for one hundred twenty two weeks." → "the chart for 122 weeks."
 * Target Nielsen SoundScan to MRC Data
 * "sold a further 3 million copies." → "sold a further 3,000,000 copies."
 * "By 1996, the album had" → "By 1996, it had"
 * "in the United States, making it certified 13x Platinum" → "in the US, being certified 13x platinum" with the target
 * "on July 21, 1984, after thirty five weeks" → "on July 21, 1984. After 35 weeks"
 * "the chart it reached and peaked" → "the chart, it peaked"
 * "and stayed there for a week, it fell off to number twelve the next week." → "for that week only." since the following stat is pointless
 * "remained on the chart for 86 weeks." → "lasted for 86 weeks on the UK Albums Chart."
 * "certified 2x Platinum by the BPI" → "certified 2x platinum by the British Phonographic Industry (BPI)"
 * "May 1, 1990 denoting shipments of 600,000 units." → "May 1, 1990, denoting shipments of 600,000 units in the UK."
 * "copies worldwide making it" → "copies worldwide, making it"
 * "Its sales as of 2008 stood" → "As of 2008, the sales stand"
 * "is also multi-platinum in" → "has also been certified multi-platinum in"
 * "Canada, New Zealand and the United Kingdom." → "Canada, and New Zealand."

Deluxe and Deluxe Expanded re-issues

 * Retitle to Re-issues
 * "The album was re-issued on" → "Purple Rain was re-issued on"
 * "with additional B-sides," → "that features additional B-sides," with the target
 * Wikilink Purple Rain Tour
 * "from 1985." → "during 1985."
 * "The album debuted at number four" → "Following the re-issue, the album re-entered at number four"
 * "the Billboard 200 at with" → "the Billboard 200, with"
 * "earned in its first week." → "earned that week."
 * "It also debuted at number three" → "Purple Rain also appeared at number three"
 * "having previously spent" → "after having previously spent"
 * "on the Top R&B Albums chart" → "on the US Top R&B Albums chart"
 * "and the Vinyl Albums chart." → "and re-entered at the same position on the Vinyl Albums chart."

Tour

 * Remove wikilink on Purple Rain Tour
 * "at the Joe Louis Arena in Detroit in" → "at Detroit's Joe Louis Arena in"
 * "the Purple Rain Tour featured" → "the tour featured"
 * Remove wikilink on Apollonia 6
 * "with the album's opener," → "with the opener to Purple Rain,"
 * "A triple of singles from 1999 (1982) followed:" → "A trio of singles from 1999 followed;"
 * ""Delirious", "1999" and" → ""Delirious", "1999", and"
 * "An instrumental interlude of" → "An instrumental interlude of the American song"
 * "another song from 1999," → "another song from the album,"
 * "followed by a usual sequence" → "commonly followed by a sequence"
 * ""Darling Nikki", "The Beautiful Ones" and" → ""Darling Nikki", "The Beautiful Ones", and"
 * "closed the concert," → "closed the concert;"
 * ""Baby I'm a Star" and" → ""Baby I'm a Star", and"
 * "The tour span 98 shows, ending" → "The Purple Rain Tour span 98 shows, ended"
 * [31] should solely be at the end of the sentence after [14]
 * "to an audience of 55,000 in Miami's Orange Bowl." → "performing to an audience of 55,000 at the Orange Bowl in Miami."
 * "Prince ended the show saying," → "At the end of the show, Prince said,"
 * "Around the World in a Day (1985) was released," → "Prince's seventh studio album Around the World in a Day (1985) was released,"
 * "an end to Prince's Purple Rain era." → "an end to his Purple Rain era."
 * "The tour was considered by Rolling Stone as" → "The Purple Rain Tour was considered by David Browne of Rolling Stone as" with the target
 * "from Bruce Springsteen and" → "from Springsteen as well as"
 * ""pop’s most" → ""pop's most"

Singles

 * "lead single "When Doves Cry" was" → "lead single, "When Doves Cry", was"
 * "first Billboard Hot 100 number-one" → "first US Billboard Hot 100 number one"
 * "staying there for" → "staying at the position for"
 * "It was ranked number one" → "It ranked at number one"
 * "The music video," → "An accompanying music video,"
 * "was premiered on" → "premiered on"
 * "Prince's second number-one hit" → "Prince's second number one hit"
 * Mention that it was the album's second single
 * "Common to much of Prince's writing," → "Similarly to much of Prince's writing,"
 * "exhortation to follow" → "exhortation for following"
 * "and a combination of" → "that combines"
 * Target R&B to Contemporary R&B
 * Mention that it was the album's third single
 * "reached number 2" → "reached number two"
 * "and final Billboard Hot 100 top 10 hit" → "and final Hot 100 top 10 hit"
 * Mention that it was the fourth single
 * "The album's final single," → "The album's fifth and final single,"
 * No citation(s) for the last two sentences?

Critical reception

 * Introduce who Jimi Hendrix is, since it is relevant due to him being a rock musician
 * "and white styles": "The" → "and white styles" on Purple Rain, writing: "The"
 * "Prince’s rock & roll" → "Prince's rock & roll" with the target
 * Wikilink funk
 * Target heavy metal to Heavy metal music
 * Remove target on psychedelia or wikilink to itself
 * "Erlewine identifies the record's" → "Erlewine identified the album's"
 * "uncompromising ... forays into pop" → "uncompromising, forays into pop"
 * "experiments", echoing general sentiment" → "experiments," echoing the general sentiment"
 * "Kenneth Partridge, writing for" → "Kenneth Partridge, for"
 * Can't you add anything else from the Billboard review of the album?
 * Target Music critics to Music journalism
 * Target electronic to Electronic music
 * "performances (some, as noted above, recorded live) along" → "performances, some of which were recorded live, along"
 * Citation(s) are not provided at the end of the sentence
 * The awards can be in a sub-section here called Industry awards
 * "Prince and the Revolution won a 1984 Grammy Award for Purple Rain, for Best Rock Vocal Performance by a Duo or Group with Vocal," → "At the 27th Annual Grammy Awards in 1984, Prince and the Revolution won the award of Best Rock Vocal Performance by a Duo or Group with Vocal with Purple Rain,"
 * "the four composers" → "while the four composers"
 * "and Melvoin) won" → "and Melvoin) were awarded"
 * [14][15] should solely be at the end of the sentence in this order
 * "for Chaka Khan's cover" → "with Chaka Khan's cover"
 * Add the cover's release year in brackets
 * Shouldn't this sentence have citation(s) at the end of it?
 * "Purple Rain posthumously won" → "The album posthumously won"

Legacy

 * Remove wikilink on pop music
 * "and is regarded" → "and has since been regarded"
 * "In 2012, the album" → "Two years later, the album"
 * "the Library of Congress's" → "the Library of Congress'"
 * "the film Purple Rain was added" → "the Purple Rain film was added"
 * Remove wikilink on Library of Congress
 * "for being "culturally, historically, or aesthetically significant"." → "lists of films that are "culturally, historically, or aesthetically" significant."
 * "observed that "There's" → "observed that, "There's"
 * "the rocker" and" → "the rocker." He continued:"
 * Remove target on Hendrix
 * Introduce Lionel Richie
 * This and the Hendrix sentence need citation(s) afterwards
 * "Partridge of Billboard emphasized Prince's" → "Patridge emphasized"
 * "writing," → "writing:"
 * [54] should be at the end of the quote instead
 * Img alt text is not filled in
 * "to Prince at" → "to Prince from" on the img main text
 * Citation(s) should be added to back up the text
 * "Described as a 'masterpiece' by" → "Described as a "masterpiece" by"
 * "into Grammy Hall of Fame in 2011," → "into GRAMMY Hall of Fame in 2011," or "into [Grammy] Hall of Fame in 2011,"
 * "as a "recording of lasting" → "as a 'recording of lasting"
 * "historical significance."...It" → "historical significance.'" He concluded, writing: "It"
 * Remove target on 1999
 * "("When Doves Cry," "Let’s Go Crazy,"" → "('When Doves Cry,' 'Let’s Go Crazy,'"
 * Wikilink Lake Minnetonka
 * "wrote for PopMatters that" → "from PopMatters'' wrote:"
 * "of the ‘80s" → "of the '80s"
 * "pop/rock history...at the" → "pop/rock history." He elaborated, saying that "at the"
 * Img needs alt text
 * Wikilink pop music on the img main text
 * "Writing for Pitchfork, Carvell Wallace" → "For Pitchfork, Carvell Wallace"
 * "a true MC...for the" → "a true MC. Wallace continued, explaining that for the"
 * The Acclaimed Music sentence should begin the final para
 * "it is the 49th most" → "Purple Rain is the 49th most"
 * "ranked Purple Rain number two on" → "ranked the album number two on"
 * These two lists are not backed up
 * "In their list of" → "On their list of"
 * "was ranked 2nd," → "was ranked second,"
 * Remove wikilink on the Beatles
 * Add release year of Help! in brackets
 * "included it in its list" → "included Purple Rain on its list"
 * VH1 does not have a citation to back it up
 * "named it the greatest album" → "named the album the greatest album"
 * "In 2008," → "The following year,"
 * "was included in the" → "was included in the book"
 * "the album at number two on its list of" → "Purple Rain at number two on its list of the"
 * "also ranked the album at number two" → "ranked the album at the same position"
 * Remove target on Pitchfork
 * "regarded it as the best album of the 1980s, ranking it at number one on its list" → "ranked it at number one on their list" since this beats around the bush
 * "In Billboard 's list of" → On Billboard's list of"

Original album

 * Good

Deluxe and Deluxe Expanded editions

 * "original album made in 2015 overseen by Prince himself" → "original album, made in 2015 and overseen by Prince himself,"
 * "of two more discs," → "of two more discs;"
 * Target maxi-single to Maxi single
 * "the Purple Rain era and a" → "the Purple Rain era alongside a"
 * Remove wikilink on Purple Rain Tour
 * Add a writing credit at the top of the track listings since this is a new sub section

Personnel

 * Information taken from the Prince Vault website → Information taken from the Prince Vault website.
 * Use so there is the right space between personnel
 * Target Matt Fink to Doctor Fink, or are you sure that shouldn't be his name listed here instead?
 * Target Brown Mark to Brownmark

Early configurations

 * "track listings of" → "track listings for"
 * "configurations are listed below. The early configuration" → "configurations are listed below; the early configuration"
 * ""Wednesday" (a song by Prince with Jill Jones) and" → ""Wednesday", which is a song by Prince with Jones, and"
 * "as it can be seen in the movie," → "as can be seen in the Purple Rain film,"
 * Target 12" maxi-single to 12" maxi single
 * Citation(s) are needed at the end of the para as well as on the bold titles of the configurations

Singles

 * Remove this section as it is going into unnecessary detail about the singles for the album article; they already have coverage appropriately in the promotion section as it is

Charts

 * Separate the Weekly charts from Year-end charts by using a col

Weekly charts

 * See MOS:TABLECAPTION
 * Split the chart tables of this sub-section like you have done for the following one
 * Make all chart tables sortable
 * Japanese Oricon LPs Chart → Japanese Albums (Oricon)
 * For the Top R&B/Hip-Hop Albums entry, solely cite the URL instead of using the template since the latter does not work
 * Remove targets on Billboard 200 in the second and third tables
 * Dutch Albums Chart → Dutch Albums (MegaCharts) with the target

Year-end charts

 * See MOS:TABLECAPTION
 * Remove wikilinks in the table(s) and lay them out with the same chart names as the other sub-section, including the brackets

Certifications

 * Remove Japan from here as that has no certification, only sales so looks like you are inflating the album's success

Final comments and verdict

 * Nearly there, will look at the above soon! --K. Peake 18:53, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
 * You might want to start responding to some of the comments now sine I am nearly done. --K. Peake 21:01, 16 August 2020 (UTC)


 * after a lengthy review over the course of multiple days; you have great writing skills, though there are still issues, especially with citing. --K. Peake 05:33, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
 * It has been five days and you have not responded yet, though is there any reasons behind a delayed response because if so I do not mind? --K. Peake 19:18, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi Kyle Peake, I am busy with other things at the moment so I unfortunately do not have the time to make those improvements. Isaacsorry (talk) 19:22, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
 * I am fine with that and will leave this article on hold until future notice, is there a date that you are aware you can implement the changes on or is this something you won't be sure of until the time comes closer? --K. Peake 20:11, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Kyle Peake I am not sure at the moment, I am generally not as active on Wikipedia as I use to be. I was wondering whether another user could make these changes? if not, then I can when I find the time. Isaacsorry (talk) 12:32, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes, if you could get them to reply to the comments too. --K. Peake 14:57, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

Nearly one month later
K. Peake, it has been nearly a month since the last comments above, and while Isaacsorry has made about 240 edits on Wikipedia since then, none of them were to the nominated article. Under the circumstances, I think it's time for that final verdict: this review should be closed. If, at some later time, Isaacsorry has time to address the issues you've raised, once they are done doing so they can renominate the article, which you can review (or not) if you wish. Thanks for taking the time to do so. BlueMoonset (talk) 23:59, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Yeah this is the appropriate verdict with the context given, as could have at least began to work on the article right now since they have clearly been active (I was not aware of the heavy amount of edits due to being busy elsewhere myself, until you told me), but decided not to. However, I will review if this is re-nominated at a later date but one month is too long to rot for sure. --K. Peake 12:28, 23 September 2020 (UTC)