Talk:Pusher (tennis)

Bias
'The whole article is biased, with few sources listed and opinionated accusation towards professional tennis players that have no factual basis.Shomukherjeet2 (talk) 04:23, 26 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Thank you for alerting Wikipedia (WP) about your concerns re this article. You're quite right to leave a comment as you have done here, and we thank you. Wikipedia welcomes all opinions, and will endeavour to improve or correct any faults, and eradicate any perceived bias. There are many things that any editor - such as yourself - can themselves do, to help (further than your help in alerting us, which is nonetheless appreciated).


 * WP encourages all editors, especially newcomers, to Be Bold - i.e. go ahead and fix what you think needs fixing. Don't be afraid of making some mistake - the prior version is always available and other editors will rectify any mistake you may make. Other things that any editor can do include:
 * * if there's bias in general in an article,: edit the article, and add at the top of the article. This will display a warning on the article, pointing to the Talk page (this page), where you can raise your specific criticisms, for discussion.


 * * if a statement is unsourced and you feel it's wrong, edit the article &, after the statement concerned, add . This will display, alerting readers that the statement lacks a reliable source.


 * But of course, if you have limited time, please do just as you have done here. May we ask, though, for specific examples of the statements that you feel are wrong? Probably best to list them here, if you could.


 * I'll add these comments also to your own Talk page. Regards, Trafford09 (talk) 12:04, 26 May 2011 (UTC)


 * The opinionated assumptions that certain professional players are pushers is simply baseless and unfounded. Being defensive minded player is just not enough. Not one evidence has been presented. Not one single credible person has stated that any of the high ranked professionals are indeed pushers. And since this is Wikipedia and not TMZ we'll just have to stick to the FACTs. Loginnigol (talk) 11:04, 19 August 2011 (UTC)


 * The list of "players known as pushers" should certainly be deleted, except for perhaps Gilbert who almost relished being known for that side of the game. If you so desired you could find sources calling the vast majority of modern day tennis players pushers. It's an insult that gets banded about regularly by fans and we shouldn't be listing players as if it represents some sort of factual term. I will delete it unless anyone raises an objection. Bandanamerchant (talk) 23:07, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
 * I deleted them, in particular mentioning `pejorative' demands excellent sources as it concerns persons. Gap9551 (talk) 11:43, 9 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Gilbert can call himself whatever he likes but he was not a pusher. Here is just one example, where he had double the winners to unforced errors ratio over Boris Becker and only just a few less winners in total (check 6:32 for the stats): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3TQWiBeqEQ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.208.196.217 (talk) 00:19, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

Biased synonym for defensive baseliner
This entire article could be reduced to three sentences:

"Pusher is a disparaging nickname for a defensive baseliner, with the implication, real or imagined, that the player is either incapable of hitting winners or unwilling to. Those disparaging players for this style of play frequently neglect to realize that any strategy that leads to wins has merit and are therefore guilty of arbitrarily applying an aesthetic sense of taste upon the whole of tennis. Those supportive of the term believe that it is more efficient to play more obviously aggressive shots, often without taking into account natural differences in players' physiology and psychology." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.208.196.217 (talk) 00:01, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

Page Move/Merge
In my opinion this topic does not merit its own article page & should be merged into Tennis strategy As it stands the article is rather small and the tone is not consistent with Wikipedia's encyclopedic style 31.124.45.250 (talk) 15:52, 11 July 2022 (UTC)