Talk:Pygmy marmoset/GA2

GA Review
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Reviewer: J Milburn (talk · contribs) 12:21, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

Happy to offer a review. J Milburn (talk) 12:21, 10 May 2013 (UTC)


 * "The communication system is complex and includes vocal, chemical, and visual signals." You're yet to mention a communication system. How about something like "Members of the group communicate using a complex system including vocal..."
 * "There are three main types of call which depend on distance the call needs to travel and visual displays may be made when the monkey is threatened or to show dominance." Awkward.
 * "It is sometimes threatened by habitat loss and the pet trade." Do you mean particular populations are threatened, or that these are the biggest threats to the species (although not that big)?
 * I don't like the way you bold the generic name, but not the specific name. Both or neither, I'd suspect.
 * The taxonomy and evolution section really needs beefing up. I'd want to see a discussion of who originally described the species and what they called it (preferably with translations of the name) before you jump into the debate about its generic placement. The discussion of the phylogentic study is also a little technical- you don't introduce the other genera.
 * Who described the subsepces?
 * Any sexual dimorphism, other than females being slightly heavier?
 * What, if any, is the physical difference between the subspecies?
 * "When the sap puddles up in the hole, it laps it up with its tongues" It has multiple tongues?
 * "exudate" is unexplained jargon
 * "In contrast to other callitrichines with a cooperative system of infant care, there is no relationship between the number of adult males and the number of infants and offspring. However, there is a significant positive relationship between the number of juveniles and the number of adult and subadult group members." This is difficult to follow, and comes out of nowhere. You're yet to introduce the fact that there's a "cooperative system of infant care".
 * You repeat the information about twins- I suspect it only needs to be discussed once.
 * Are these groups family groups? I assume so, but it's never said. Do individual marmosets stay in the same group all their life? Surely there must be some system for group switching, or they will just end up mating with siblings generation after generation. There's precious little about inter-group relations generally.
 * "the trill for short distance communication, J-calls for intermediate distances, and long calls for long distances" Jargon. I think this section would be best rearranged so that the calls are explained when you first mention them.
 * "The pygmy marmoset is listed as Least Concern by the International Union for Conservation of Nature due to it being widespread, common, and is not thought to be at risk of large population declines." This doesn't make sense
 * So they're captured as pets? Is this illegal? Are they kept in zoos? (I have a feeling I may have actually seen them in zoos.)
 * The references look excellent, as do the images.

While this certainly isn't a bad article, it's a pretty big topic; it's clear that there has been a lot of research into this area. There seem to be a few bits you've not covered, which really should be covered, and, in places, the writing isn't as good as it could be. I'm going to keep this review open to see what you can manage, but I worry that there may be more to be fixed than can be done in the GAC timeframe. Certainly keep at it, though- as I say, it's a long way from poor, and this is a topic which deserves a decent article. J Milburn (talk) 13:00, 10 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Well, it's been a week and there's been no movement, so I'm closing this review. While this is a fairly strong article, it's going to need a bit more work before it's GA standard. Keep at it, and do renominate once you've worked on my suggestions above. J Milburn (talk) 15:30, 17 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Sorry, I have been "out of office" for a while. I will make the changes at some point in the future, but can't at the moment. Cheers, Jack (talk) 15:31, 1 June 2013 (UTC)