Talk:Pyrotechnics

Pyrotechnics: Edit: Evidently for Ostensibly
"The foam caused the fire to spread rapidly and the resulting fire led to 100 deaths, ostensibly because their quick escape was blocked by ineffective exit doors."

May I suggest replacing "ostensibly" with "evidently" and removing "because." —Preceding unsigned comment added by Karl de Jong (talk • contribs)

Homemade Flashpots
Does this section really have a legitimate place in this entry? This is intended to be an encyclopedia, and this section does not detail the construction or operation of flashpots in general, and is primarily an assault on the practice of homebuilding them. An encyclopedia does not have the authority to say "should" or "shouldn't". At the most, this paragraph should be changed to make the danger known, and nothing else. 97.113.65.212 (talk) 08:03, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

I (WikiPyroEngineer) propose to delete the homemade flashpots. Although originally it is most likely contributed with the best possible intentions, I think it is time to clean up this section, and the page in its entirety. —Preceding unsigned comment added by WikiPyroEngineer (talk • contribs) 06:22, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

Last two paragraphs need reworking
The last two paragraphs of this article have many, many capitalized words, and need reworking, if not deletion. --DThomsen8 (talk) 01:57, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Safe (?) Fireworks
so called Safe Fireworks were made in germany in 1900s.Cosisted on various tyubes with colorful lithograph designs(cannons, toweres etc) That "fired" streamers, cottton balls etc.No mention of Safe Fireworks in article!(Decided/DatedAMMorn,Sat.July 4th,2009 21st cent. Dr.Edson Andre' Johnson D>D>ULC) SWORDINHAND (talk) 17:24, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Inflammist
I don't think it's appropriate to merge with this article, primarily since "pyrotechnics" deals primarily with equipment, products, and techniques. It seems more likely inflammist would fit in with pyrotechnician, since both are about the individuals who operate effects; however, as the article is written now it is not suitable for merger. The whole second half of the "inflammist" article suffers from the same problem as the Homemade Devices section does in this article: its A) not something you necessarily want to teach people; and B) it's unverifiable, and therefore unreferenceable. The cynic in me also finds it odd that all the references to the topic in a quick internet search turn up the wikipedia entry, and nothing else... DJSparky    huh? 04:15, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

There is clearly a difference between pyrotechnics and inflammatist as already identified by DJSparky. The article on pyrotechnics is largely about the science that enables such effects, whereas the inflammist item is about the role of a person undertaking effects using flame. --KiwiMadMac 05:09, 22 March 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by KiwiMadMac (talk • contribs)

"as pioneered by KISS"
Don't forget Buffalo Bill, and the gamut of early American road shows. This is a section - nay a page - that needs total rework. I call bogus on it now. Too narrow vision, too partisan. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.82.243.150 (talk) 06:44, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

Changed this line around, as KISS didn't "pioneer" the use of proximate pyro. The Who was using pyrotechnics onstage by 1967 (Keith Moon's exploding drumkit) and Pink Floyd was using them no later than 1969 (Royal Albert Hall performance with a gorilla firing a cannon and pink smoke bombs). KISS, on the other hand, didn't even start touring until 1973, and they didn't add pyro until after playing a few shows with Golden Earring (who'd been using it since the late '60s). The line, as written, wasn't accurate. I changed it to:

Many musical groups use pyrotechnics to enhance their live shows. Some of the earliest bands to use pyrotechnics were The Who, Pink Floyd, KISS and Queen. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.176.65.236 (talk) 20:37, 26 March 2011 (UTC)

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Pyrotechnic incident section needs a rewrite
This section is just a giant list of pyrotechnic incidents, and needs to be removed, instead we should just explain pyrotechnic incidents and how they happen, without giving solutions or any other detail.

Sincerely, Thenewright22 (talk) 13:20, 17 October 2022 (UTC)

Is the Rammstein reference relevant?
While looking up the source for the photo, I happened upon this comment associated to it https://www.flickr.com/photos/metalium/1738156/#comment72157637946224906

"Hi there, I would like to question the fact that this image is on the wikipedia entry for pyrotechnics. The gentlemen on stage are using propane (of other hydrocarbon) to create their effect. This is not pyrotechnics and to be honest we of the fire art community are constantly trying to explain to authorities that we do not need a pyrotechnics license to perform our art and I was just about to point one of them to this wikipedia page when I realised that your photo does not represent the page and it might cause even more confusion!"

I am not familiar with the field, but thought it might be worth flagging (I didn't see any obvious discussion of this in the past history of this page).

shtrom (talk) 23:10, 28 May 2024 (UTC)