Talk:Q38 (New York City bus)/GA1

GA Review
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Reviewer: Username6892 (talk · contribs) 21:11, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

My review of this article is mostly done. Expect some comments soon. Username6892 21:11, 17 April 2020 (UTC)


 * GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)


 * 1) It is reasonably well written.
 * a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
 * See bottom
 * 1) It is factually accurate and verifiable.
 * a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources):  c (OR):  d (copyvio and plagiarism):
 * See bottom
 * 1) It is broad in its coverage.
 * a (major aspects): b (focused):
 * 1) It follows the neutral point of view policy.
 * Fair representation without bias:
 * 1) It is stable.
 * No edit wars, etc.:
 * 1) It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
 * a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
 * 1) Overall:
 * Pass/Fail:
 * In the lead "It operates 7 days a week except late nights". Midnight seems pretty late night to me, based on the schedule (ref 9). If you meant that it does not run overnights, please clarify. (1a)
 * The MTA classifies "late night" as overnight. This page just goes by the MTA's classifications of late-night service, but to my knowledge, this has never been brought up before as an issue, so I will fix it. (Disclosure, I am not the nominator, but have fixed some of the issues in this page.) epicgenius (talk) 22:42, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
 * The lead doesn't mention the history. (1b)
 * Would refs 11 and 14 be needed on the Route section (they show the same thing (the route))? Ref 15 may not be needed either.
 * I think this should be fine. It doesn't quite violate WP:CITEKILL yet. epicgenius (talk) 22:42, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
 * In the history section, I don't think you need 6 refs to prove the 1934 changes.
 * This is WP:CITEKILL, though. epicgenius (talk) 22:42, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
 * There are sections with 3-5 refs in the 3rd and 2nd last paragraphs. Are all of them needed? (1a)
 * "The corona end of the route was later extended" When? (1a)
 * Is ref 35 needed when refs 33 and 34 already cover it? (1a)
 * There wasn't anything in ref 13 to suggest that the buses were the specific new flyer model mentioned. (2c)
 * I can't verify the fultonhistory.com refs, they give server errors every time I try to open them. Dead link?
 * Yes, this is a recurring problem. epicgenius (talk) 22:42, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
 * "by the 1950s, the route was renamed the Q50". Failed verification, given the ref is the 1946 map (2c)
 * "remained at LaGuardia depot until January 2010", source doesn't say January (2c)
 * The last ~4 lines are uncited (2c)
 * Plus, this is trivia.
 * Is ref 35 needed when refs 33 and 34 already cover it? (1a)
 * There wasn't anything in ref 13 to suggest that the buses were the specific new flyer model mentioned. (2c)
 * I can't verify the fultonhistory.com refs, they give server errors every time I try to open them. Dead link?
 * Yes, this is a recurring problem. epicgenius (talk) 22:42, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
 * "by the 1950s, the route was renamed the Q50". Failed verification, given the ref is the 1946 map (2c)
 * "remained at LaGuardia depot until January 2010", source doesn't say January (2c)
 * The last ~4 lines are uncited (2c)
 * Plus, this is trivia.
 * "remained at LaGuardia depot until January 2010", source doesn't say January (2c)
 * The last ~4 lines are uncited (2c)
 * Plus, this is trivia.
 * Plus, this is trivia.

Given that this is my first review, I will request a 2nd opinion to make sure I didn't make any errors. Username6892 21:27, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the review, . I think this is a pretty thorough review, though I might be involved now that I fixed many of the issues. epicgenius (talk) 22:42, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
 * After an additional fix I made myself, I will now pass this article, though the fulton history issue shold be dealt with before taking this further. Username6892 23:07, 17 April 2020 (UTC)