Talk:Qasr al-Yahud

State of Palestine
Category:Tourism in the State of Palestine This category exists to be used, if this is not in the State of Palestine then what is??? Makeandtoss (talk) 20:11, 7 September 2016 (UTC)
 * I don't like the semi-fictional West Bank categories too. However this site is not controlled by Palestine and has never been. What makes it part of tourism in Palestine then?GreyShark (dibra) 16:05, 18 September 2016 (UTC)
 * "in the State". --Makeandtoss (talk) 20:13, 18 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Ridiculous. There is and has never been an affiliation between this site and the "State of Palestine". It is run, funded, maintained and was developed by Israel. It flies the Israeli flag. Calling it a site "in the State of Palestine" is just political propaganda. 5.29.199.159 (talk) 06:44, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Too bad it still lies within the Palestinian state. --Makeandtoss (talk) 08:12, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Baptism site changing booths.jpg Keleti (talk) 18:57, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Still within the Palestinian territories, according to the UN, UNSC, EU, USA and the rest of the world. Makeandtoss (talk) 19:04, 9 December 2016 (UTC)

Al-Maghtas is the traditional, historical name
Al-Maghtas is the traditional, historical name for both sides of the baptism site, E and W alike. Qasr el-Yahud is the popular name of the monastery west of the actual baptism site, but has lately been officially expanded by Israel to cover the western part of the baptism site as well (possibly because it contains the words "al-Yahud, 'of the Jews').

Don't believe me, just check the references: the Oslo Accords (!!!) as signed by Yasser Arafat, but also the website of the Gr. Orth. Patriarchate, and the works by Othmar Keel and Ed Noort, also considering the SWP.

Arguing against the use of the name for both sides of the baptism site, east and west, seems to be an act of misunderstood "local patriotism" by Jordanian editors. Ideology of any kind vs. historical fact is always a lost & misled struggle.

The topic has been misunderstood, and already endlessly "discussed" (gravely missing the point), here: Talk:Al-Maghtas. Arminden (talk) 08:58, 25 November 2022 (UTC)