Talk:Quanzhou dialects

Phonemic initials
Please see the article on phonemes to see what I mean. In most phonological analyses of Hokkien (including the ones cited in this article),, and  are simply allophones of , , , i.e. there are no (near-)minimal pairs between  and ,  and , etc. Something like 名 (miâ in POJ) is actually  in phonemes,  being the actual pronunciation. Similarly, the palatalization of, and  is a phonological process, i.e.  is not a phoneme but an allophone of. — justin(r)leung { (t...) 12:51, 20 September 2018 (UTC)