Talk:Quatloos.com/Archives/2013

Cited in Fox News Market Watch
For future reference, the Quatloos web site has been cited by Eva Rosenberg at Fox News Market Watch, here:, on 17 January 2008, in "The IRS Is Getting Serious About Tax Protesters' Frivolous Claims". Yours, Famspear (talk) 23:05, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

The Marc Stevens critique
A reference to a critique by Marc Stevens, a radio talk show host who is also the subject of a Wikipedia article, was recently added to the article. Marc Stevens and his claims have been the subject of some lengthy discussions at the Quatloos forum (see here for example), in which Stevens himself participated. I am a regular contributor at Quatloos, so I may have a conflict of interest in editing this article on Quatloos -- and I don't really feel inclined to get into this article right now. However, my fellow Wikipedia editors should know that Marc Stevens definitely has an axe to grind when it comes to his views about Quatloos. For now, however, I'll leave it to other editors to make improvements to this article if they so desire. Famspear (talk) 02:07, 28 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Based on my limited knowledge, the Stevens criticism does appear to be of limited relevance to a reader seeking to learn about Quatloos. However the new text appears factual and is supported by a citation.  If it raises False Equivalence issues, the solution is probably more content and positive citations rather than removing the reference.Oblivy (talk) 07:26, 29 April 2012 (UTC)


 * I toned down the rhetoric in the article regarding the Marc Stevens matter a bit. Famspear (talk) 03:16, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

What I find interesting is that even the edit states that Marc Stevens is a radio show host. He did at one point have "shows" on a "radio" network, which shut down in 2008 so the term no longer applies to him. On top of being a tax protestor of the first order he also has links to the sovereign citizen movement, IIRC, and has been the subject of multiple expose's, not only on Quatloos, but on other websites as well. So we are allowing a reference to a blog from a known tax protestor stating that an anti-scam website does not allow the "facts" as he sees them, which have been overturned time and time again in courts, to be trumpeted across the internet? Not only is it not a relevant section, it is not supported in any mainstream media and contains no facts at all. It is an opinion. Wolfstorm000 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 15:19, 2 August 2012 (UTC)


 * I have deleted the brief section in the article on the Marc Stevens "criticism". Famspear (talk) 17:15, 3 August 2012 (UTC)