Talk:Queen Alexandra

as per Wiki naming convention re former royal spouses; could also be Alexandra of Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Glucksborg; I've added this move request to start a discussion, DO NOT DELETE Mowens35 20:34, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * It was at Alexandra of Denmark before, it should be moved back to this Astrotrain 17:51, Apr 28, 2005 (UTC)
 * I have tried moving it, to no avail. It conflicts with "Princess Alexandra, Countess of Fredericksborg" for some reason. Any idea how to fix this? Mowens35 18:44, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)

The page belongs at Alexandra of Denmark and no where else. It is standard naming policy here and everywhere to refer to a royal spouse by returning to their pre-marital name, eg Catherine of Aragon, Mary of Teck. etc. In the case of princesses, that means where she was a princess of, but the princess title is not used. (How many history books have you seen with Princess Catherine of Aragon? . So she would be Alexandra of Denmark, not Princess Alexandra of Denmark, and sure as hell not Alexandra of Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Glucksborg. Personal names are not used in royal pages unless (a) it is a spouse returning to a pre-marital name, and (b) they were a commoner with no title to return to. She would only be Alexandra of Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Glucksborg if she had no title (as with Lady Diana Spencer, but in Diana's case, as she is a contemporary figure it has been suggested that she be left temporarily at Diana, Princess of Wales as she is still known by that, before eventually being used to Lady Diana Spencer in a couple of years. In strict terms, she should already be at LDS). But past royal spouses are never ever supposed to be at Queen  because as there is no ordinal confusion would reign. Would Queen Mary be Queen Mary (wife of George V) or Queen Mary (wife of James II). Would Queen Elizabeth be refer to the wife of George VI or the wide of Henry VII, etc? So to avoid this, history books and wikipedia move all past queens back to the maiden title or if none, maiden name.

What you have done now is create two talk pages linked to the same page, which is now back where it belongs at Alexandra of Denmark. So now someone is going to have to merge both into a talk page at Alexandra of Denmark. Please find someone to do it and don't move former queens like this again. (And if you have moved any, move them back to where they should be). The only other way to pull the pages together would be to cut and paste and that should be avoided. Fear ÉIREANN 20:59, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)

The oldest son of Alix and Bertie was called 'Albert Victor', not 'Albert Edward', which was Bertie's name. (I don't know how he got the nickname 'Eddy' I don't know. Maybe Edward was a subsequent name, but history records him as Albert Victor. Source: Harold Nicolson, King George V  - family tree at the back.

Alix's suicide attempt, and the fashion craze started by the high 'choker' collars, was reported in newspaper coverage on royal suicide attempts that followed claims about Diana, Princess of Wales's supposed suicide attempt. It featured in a number of Irish, British and continental papers, as well as in magazines. JTD 01:11 Jan 18, 2003 (UTC)


 * Would the British Royal Family settle for a piddling two names? I think not ;). Edward was indeed a subsequent name: Albert Victor Christian Edward, Duke of Clarence.  I had never heard the choker bit, very interesting...and rather an unusual suicide method. -- Someone else 01:15 Jan 18, 2003 (UTC)


 * Thanx. I didn't have his full name. I presumed Eddy was in there somewhere but he was formally known simply as Albert Victor just as the Duke of Windsor was known as 'Prince Edward' even though his family called him David.


 * Apparently Alix tried to cut her own throat. When it was a genuine suicide attempt, or something akin to one of Diana's melodramatic 'suicide' attempts (one of which apparently used a knife that was so blunt (and which she knew was so blunt) that it wouldn't cut melted butter!) Alix does come across as a very nice, genuine woman. But people who knew of the scar found it bizarre that millions of women in Britain, Ireland and even America began wearing Choker Collars (often made of lace), having absolutely no idea that Alix wasn't making a fashion choice but was trying to conceal a major scar. Indeed, quite apart from the suicide link, she and Diana were quite alike; strikingly beautiful women in marriages that were none too solid, with difficult relationships with courtiers, married to husbands who if they inherited the throne at all, would only inherit it in old age.

One can only hope that Prince William isn't a modern equivalent of poor Prince Eddy, who was mentally deficient (to put it mildly); others called him at the time mentally retarded'. And the poor lad did have a habit of stumbling quite innocently into 'scandals'; from supposedly being 'Jack the Ripper' (a bit difficult given that for one of the murders, he was up in Balmoral, in full view of Queen Victoria, the German Kaiser, the Prime Minister and senior ministers at dinner. (Even in the days of Concorde, he'd have difficulty getting down to London, murder a prostitute, and then get back to Balmoral in time for dessert! )The of course, there was the rumour that he was caught up in the Cleveland St. gay brothel scandal. I think Britain's monarchy had a lucky escape when he died and the throne went to his younger brother, who as George V was one of Britain's finest ever monarchs. JTD 03:12 Jan 18, 2003 (UTC)

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