Talk:Queen Camilla

Camilla vs Shand
I think the article should probably refer to her as Camilla rather than Shand. Apart from sounding odd using Shand is ambiguous as it could refer to her, her brother or mum or dad. I may come back and change them if no one objects? Tim333 (talk) 17:02, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
 * References to "Parker Bowles" should also be changed to "Camilla". Nowhere in the Queen Mum's article is she referred to as "Bowes-Lyon".  Peter Ormond &#128172;  04:52, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I agree. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 15:22, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I disagree. The Queen Mother was known mostly as Lady Elizabeth before her marriage. Same with Diana, Princess of Wales who was known as Lady Diana. Unlike them, Camilla is not the daughter of an aristocrat; on top of that during the entire period from the mid-1970s to 2005 she was known as Mrs Parker Bowles. Her case is pretty much similar to Catherine, Princess of Wales, Meghan, Duchess of Sussex, and Sophie, Duchess of Edinburgh. All of them are referred to by their maiden surnames in sections that cover their premarital life. Keivan.f  Talk 16:33, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

Queen Camilla’s title should be changed.
Queen Camilla is a Queen Consort. Prince Phillip, who used to be HM Queen Elizabeth’s husband, did not get a title of King Phillip. Therefore Camilla should be called Queen Consort not just Queen itself. Clairehong228 (talk) 07:41, 23 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Firstly, "Queen Consort" isn't a title. Queen is the title. Consort tells us what type of Queen she is. Queen Elizabeth II was Queen because she was the regnant. Camilla is the Queen because she is a consort. In either cases, the latter is not the title. Secondly, Phillip did not get the title of "King Philip" because there is no such thing as a King Consort therefore he was titled as Prince. 81.140.89.191 (talk) 13:41, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Queen Consort might not be a title and the page name will remain the same as it is now. But wasn't this page titled "Queen Consort Camilla" from September 2022 when Elizabeth II passed away till the coronation in May last year. Why so? Just asking for clarity. Regards MSincccc (talk) 13:58, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
 * The page was titled "Camilla, Queen Consort" because her title until her coronation was "Her Majesty The Queen Consort" to distinguish her from the recently deceased Queen Elizabeth II. She is now "Her Majesty The Queen", consistent with all the past queens consort. In response to the initial comment, the title is fine as it is. In Britain, husbands of queens regnant are not made kings; examples include Prince Philip, Prince Albert, and Prince George. Whereas wives of British kings are always called "Her Majesty The Queen" with the examples being Queen Elizabeth (later The Queen Mother), Queen Mary, Queen Alexandra, Queen Adelaide, Queen Caroline, Queen Charlotte, Queen Caroline, etc. The title of this page is also consistent with the title of other similar pages on living consorts, namely Empress Masako, Empress Michiko, Queen Letizia of Spain, Queen Sofia of Spain, Queen Mathilde of Belgium, Queen Paola of Belgium, Queen Maxima of the Netherlands, Queen Mary of Denmark, Queen Silvia of Sweden, Queen Sonja of Norway, Queen Rania of Jordan, Queen Noor of Jordan, and Queen Saleha of Brunei, all of whom are also queens consort and their pages do not (and should not) include the word "consort" since they all are/have been officially titled "The Queen" (or "The Empress" in the case of Japanese consorts).  Keivan.f  Talk 14:39, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I also hope that Wikipedia upholds this standard. I think that when her father-in-law passes away, the Princess of Wales' page should be titled "Catherine, Queen Consort" up until the time of her coronation (if there is a coronation, it's likely, but only time will tell). Wikipedia often has trouble being consistent, I hope they are with things like this. StrawWord298944 (talk) 23:40, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
 * The article should reflect whatever reliable sources say the titles are when that happens. TFD (talk) 14:07, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
 * It's likely that Catherine will not be styled Queen Consort at the time of her husband's accession. Queens Consort are only distinguished as such when there is a transition from a Queen Regnant to a King Regnant - thus Victoria to Edward VII, and Elizabeth II to Charles III.  Queens Mary and Elizabeth were styled simply as 'Queen' from the point of accession.
 * Note, of course, that when the King dies, Queen Camilla will immediately take the title of Queen Dowager and be styled as Her Majesty Queen Camilla, rather than Her Majesty the Queen.  Chrisxo (talk) 21:44, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
 * We use the titles that Buckingham Palace used. Camilla's title was Queen Consort until her coronation, when it became Queen. All reliable sources have followed this usage. If you can point to legislation, orders in council or letters patent that explain why this is wrong, then please provide them. Otherwise, your reasoning is just original research and invalid.
 * Incidentally, Philip did not receive the title of Prince Consort. TFD (talk) 18:06, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Neither did George. Just wanted to bring that up for the record :) Keivan.f  Talk 19:56, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
 * The titles prince and princess were not used by the royal family until the Hanoverians, except for Wales. TFD (talk) 14:06, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Small correction — the title Princess Royal was used prior to the Hanoverians, with King Charles I's wife starting the tradition. She came from France, where the eldest daughter was known as the Madame Royale. This was adapted to the modern term "Princess Royal." Meaning there were generally one prince and two princesses in England prior to the Hanoverians: the Prince and Princess of Wales, and the Princess Royal, all of which still are titles held by living people today. StrawWord298944 (talk) 12:25, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Her official title is Her Majesty The Queen. She is, of course, the consort of the king and is therefore a queen consort; but all in all, she is The Queen. 71.184.82.123 (talk) 04:06, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

What's sad here is that anybody would even bother to reply to such utter nonsense, rather than just ignoring it. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 15:34, 16 February 2024 (UTC)


 * It's not your king or your queen consort, so you cannot understand. Let's have a chat about your country and it's rulers. Wait no, it's none of our business. 2406:2D40:9043:4910:7453:B18:C75C:A4DE (talk) 02:46, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia is edited by users from around the globe and is read by an international audience. There is no rule banning people from editing pages based on their nationality and place of origin. As long as one has access to reliable sources and information they can edit any topic of interest. So yeah, the content on a given page could be anyone's business. Keivan.f  Talk 05:56, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 30 January 2024
Camilla is not a Queen and labelling the page as such when she is Consort only is dangerously misleading. 202.161.127.50 (talk) 21:44, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
 * See Verifiability for guidance. DrKay (talk) 21:56, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I'd love to know how this is either misleading or dangerous? 2A00:23C5:D16:6B01:54DF:FFC2:46E9:FFFB (talk) 12:38, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
 * I assume you're going to post the same comment on the talk pages of all previous Queen consorts too? Or is it just Camilla? 81.140.89.191 (talk) 14:34, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Of course they won't. Whether people like her or not, legally speaking, Camilla is Queen in every way except in the sense that she is not a Queen regnant. All royal sources and all official documents have referred to her as Her Majesty The Queen since the coronation. It simply comes down to the person's irrational and personal hatred for the person. StrawWord298944 (talk) 17:49, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
 * If you go to royal.uk, you can literally see that she is, in fact, a Queen. Stop spreading misinformation and get over it. StrawWord298944 (talk) 06:51, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

Royal Maundy 2024
Can someone add a bit under the section titled "Queen consort" that references that the Queen stood in for the King at the 2024 Royal Maundy church service? StrawWord298944 (talk) 05:24, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

Coats of arms and copyright
A discussion is going on at the Commons concerning the copyright status of several coats of arms that are in use on pages related to British royalty. Please feel free to share your comments and input at commons:Commons:Deletion requests/Coat of arms of Queen Camilla.svg. Thanks. Keivan.f Talk 18:29, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

Change her title
She is Queen Consort not the Queen. 2A00:23C5:1B09:D300:10A:59E:2194:E23C (talk) 13:26, 21 July 2024 (UTC)