Talk:Quentin Crisp/Archive2015/December

re: Spungeon
re Nancy Spungeon -- there was no conviction in this case, therefore I changed "murder" to the more neutral "death". As Nancy Spungeon says, "It is likely the details of her death will never be known."


 * A small point, the link in this article and the article on the woman both have it "Spungen," not "Spungeon." The article on her has a link to an on-line photo of her grave, where it is also "Spungen."  140.147.160.78 21:47, 4 January 2007 (UTC)Stephen Kosciesza

Disrespecting Diana
So, he "famously commented disrespectfully on the death of Diana, Princess of Wales"... what did he actually say? 86.132.143.154 01:46, 13 June 2006 (UTC)


 * He said in a 1998 interview 'She was trash that deserved what she got.' He was quoted in the UK's The Independent in November 1998 shortly before his death and the comments appeared in several obituaries.Yallery Brown 20:02, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

There is a common misbelief about this. Crisp did not make that comment in response to her death. It was actually said in connection to her separation from Charles in the mid-90's when Diana was effectively at a loose end and wanted public sympathy in order to find a role in society for herself. The full comment Crisp said was "I always thought Diana was such trash and got what she deserved. She was Lady Diana before she was Princess Diana so she knew the racket. She knew that royal marriages have nothing to do with love. You marry a man and you stand beside him on public occasions and you wave and for that you never have a financial worry until the day you die." Following her death, he did make another comment, suggesting that it was perhaps her "fast and shallow" lifestyle that led to her death. "She could have been Queen of England and she was swanning about Paris with Arabs. What disgraceful behaviour. Going about saying she wanted to be the Queen of Hearts. The vulgarity of it is so overpowering." It's still what some would consider disrespectful, though whether or not he was actually wrong is a judgement each person should make for themselves. MassassiUK 03.36, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Art modeling--his comments years later
I saw Quentin Crisp on the Tonight Show once. Talking about art modeling, he said that the greatest duty of the classroom art model is to resemble the students' work. I'm hoping that came from something he wrote, and wasn't a remark he thought of right then--because I'd love to find a citation for it. Has anybody run into it? 140.147.160.78 22:39, 4 January 2007 (UTC)Stephen Kosciesza

Exhibitionism
What does "his defiant exhibitionism" refer to? His art modeling? His clothing? Hyacinth (talk) 23:40, 12 March 2008 (UTC)


 * It refers to the flamboyant manner in which he refused to conceal his sexuality. The way he dressed and his mannerisms could be construed as "exhibitionism" at a time when it was strictly taboo.79.66.59.146 (talk) 15:45, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Without going into too many details.... Quentin used to entertain his boyfriend in a room with a glass Skylight, there were many buildings nearby much higher..... Quentin was often visited by the Police. He would 'bow his head, blush quite red and promise the Officer who was stood at his door that the complaints he was following up would never have to be made again'. As soon as the Policeman left he returned to his friend.Johnwrd (talk) 01:42, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Logical Failure!
"In December 1998, he celebrated his ninetieth birthday performing the opening night of his one-man show, 'An Evening with Quentin Crisp', at The Intar Theatre on 42nd Street in New York City (produced by John Glines of The Glines). A humorous pact he had made with Penny Arcade to live to one hundred, with ten years off for good behaviour, proved prophetic. In November 1999, Quentin Crisp died, nearly one month before his ninety-first birthday, in Chorlton-cum-Hardy in Manchester, England, on the eve of a nationwide revival of his one-man show. "

According to this he performed after dying :S 83.109.77.96 (talk) 13:38, 19 October 2008 (UTC)


 * I don't think you've read it properly. Try again and pay close attention to the dates. 79.66.127.242 (talk) 19:56, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Quentins odd diet.
Quentins bazaar eating habits is worth a mention. When he was young he lived on cups of Tea and bars of Chocolate. In later life Quentin lived on Complan, he explained to a television audience, holding up a hot cup of Complan; 'there is this marvelous mixture you get from the chemist. No cooking, no dishes to wash, you just add hot water to the powder in a cup'.Johnwrd (talk) 04:09, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

personal life
a very good article. Strangely enough almost nothing about his personal life - relationships etc. A refreshing change from many wikipedai articles which only talk about personal lives! 90.11.103.202 (talk) 06:28, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

misuranistic surroundings
The section "His influence and legacy" discusses his influence on Boy George and uses the term "misuranistic surroundings"; from context I consider the term to mean homophobic surroundings, but cannot find the term or a cognate in my dictionaries. What is the word's origin, meaning etc? note:The origin of "misuranistic" comes from the italian misurani or to "measure".Crisp was speaking of the British society wher everyone is looked at or judged on a scale,or people are measured in both class and in his case his sexuality.-Nicholas Esposito —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.224.114.36 (talk) 06:26, 10 March 2010 (UTC) Grant McKenna (talk) 19:13, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

It's rather archaic, but 'uranism' is a term for homosexuality in men (http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1O27-uranism.html). Also- http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/uranism 'Misuranistic' would then be the equivalent of 'homophobic' —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93archer93 (talk • contribs) 13:37, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Poor and biased wording
"and cultivating his outlandishly effeminate appearance to a standard that both shocked contemporary Londoners and provoked homophobic attacks." blame the victim much? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.171.165.123 (talk) 07:33, 11 November 2011 (UTC)