Talk:Qui pluribus

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Its coupling of political liberalism and religious indifferntism is seen as a condemnation of the Italian Carbonari in particular and Freemasonry in general. except that neither organization is mentioned in the text of the document, so, without further sourcing, this interpretation is original research.--Vidkun 21:26, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

translation of qui pluribus
i can't make sense of "qui pluribus", but it doesn't mean "on faith and religion." that would be de fide et religione. can anyone else translate this? Jake the Editor Man ( talk  ) 20:32, 3 January 2008 (UTC)