Talk:Quincy, Illinois

POV issues
I really don't like the paragraph on Future Growth. (Speaking as a Quincian, nonetheless)


 * You're not the only one. This article has a lot of peacocking in it, and needs to be cleaned up for it.  Kelly Martin 03:47, August 19, 2005 (UTC)

A message
To whom it may concern..

I was the one who put the Corporations, radio, growth, famous Quincyans, as well as others and in response to the person above. I am sorry for my bad use of grammer and sentance structure, I am only fifteen years old and wanted to contribute to the Wiki community, so I apoligise. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.138.20.114 (talk • contribs)


 * You can only learn by doing. Don't worry about it; you'll get better with practice.  Kelly Martin 19:18, 18 September 2005 (UTC)

Census counts
Census counts include all the people residing in a city as of a certain date, and normally this will include "temporary" residents such as the QU students mentioned in someone's addition. Therefore it's not correct to take a count of 46,966 and add QU's 1200 students to get a population of 48000---they will already have been included in the original 46,9. /blahedo (t) 02:46, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

More pictures
I am a Quincyan and often make quite frequent visits to this site, but I believe that there isn't enough pictures on this site for Quincy, I would try, but I just don't know how, the whole process here to do that is quite confusing. I was going to post a picture of the Quincy sunset at the river on here, but couldn't figure out what I needed to do first. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.138.20.114 (talk • contribs)


 * If you have the picture in electronic format already, it's easy. Click the "Upload file" link in the navigation bar (beneath the search field), and follow the instructions there.  Then, if you named it "Foo.jpg", you could use it on any wiki page by making a link to Image:Foo.jpg.  /blahedo (t) 23:25, 28 October 2005 (UTC)


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My mistake
I'm sorry, but I just checked my sources, the person above is right about the 2000 census information and Shout Fest (Local Attractions) is actually a traveling group, not an annual event, so it shouldn't be included as a "local event", my mistake. :( —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.138.20.114 (talk • contribs)

Railroad confusion
I know people say believe 1% of what you see on tv, and 40% of what you read. but my history book stated that Quincy was the first city in the US to have a railroad cross the Mississippi, maybe the Quad Cities was the first to have a commuter train cross the Mississippi, I don't really know. All I know is that my book said that, and now I am confused. Which was it Quad Cities or Quincy? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.138.20.114 (talk • contribs)

Sorry about that
I contributed a lot to this page, but forgot to add one detail the sources.


 * The Corporations were found from their corporate websites
 * The Sister Cities were found in local news articles from the Herald-Whig and WGEM earlier in the year.
 * Ewbanks is not referenced as an official town in Illinois, but is still considered a community northeast of Quincy. Found in an article of the Herald-Whiq which mentioned the annexing of Hickory Grove.
 * Media was found from local television stations, radio stations, and magazines. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.138.20.114 (talk • contribs)

Piecemeal editing...
I know that generally edits should be done in one swoop, but there's a lot of... umm... eccentricies to this article, in addition with the useful information.

Is Quincy really, really a trucking center of the country? I would put any city on an Interstate that ends in a 0 or a 5 above Quincy. This and a few other things I haven't looked into specifically need to be cited somewhere. —Rob 21:43, 13 January 2006 (UTC)


 * [] McNay Trucking
 * [] Sharkley Transportaion
 * [] Sisbro Trucking
 * [] ABF Trucking
 * John Wood Coimmunity College is one of the midwest's leading schools in where people train to become "truckers".
 * Other trucking companies house warehouses here in Quincy, like Amcorp, which is based in Omaha, Neb.


 * Okay, that makes more sense. I'll add something to that effect tonight. What I'm hesitant about is naming specific companies in the article &mdash; I feel that such information more properly belongs in the separate List of corporations in Quincy, Illinois unless it is reasonable that people that form a general cross-section of Wikipedia have heard of said companies. Also, can you please sign your responses with ? Thanks. —Rob 16:44, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Addendum to previous post &mdash; Quincy, Illinois should contain (I feel) the elements of what make Quincy, Quincy, as opposed to everything and anything that has to do with Quincy. This is why I've created the List of corporations, Sister Cities, and Famous People articles. Leaving Media in there is a toss-up. Leaving Attractions in there is definitely in doubt, if only because I think it can be rewritten in prose as opposed to a giant list. I'll think about it some more, but there might be a List of attractions in Quincy, Illinois and List of events in Quincy, Illinois coming. I'm sort of referring to Chicago, Illinois as a good article to look at in terms of structure, prose, and what's included as opposed to what's left out. &mdash;Rob 16:52, 14 January 2006 (UTC)


 * I moved the following section. It didn't really add to the article, and might end up being a subsection of Suburbs eventually. But it needs to be distilled to a sensible write-up on concrete plans for future growth. --Rob 04:31, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

Growth

 * Quincy serves as the hub of the Illinois, Missouri, Iowa Tri-State and looks to have a promising future.  Since the construction of Interstate 172, the city has seen significant growth in commercial and residential as well as industrial development.  National chain retailers both in the Quincy Mall and elsewhere along Broadway serve as a major draw for the local economy, and the last decade has seen development bringing the city limits all the way to the interstate.  Ongoing and planned projects will expand the city to the north, northeast, and east, attracting further attention from the highway.


 * The city is limited on southern growth because of the limestone mining. It may prove hazardous to build south for it may cause cave-ins.

Todo List
This list will be maintained as a template for what to do in the future with the article Quincy, Illinois.


 * 1) Article is missing an introductory paragraph. It contains a history but not a suitable introduction as to what the city is now.
 * 2) List of attractions needs to be summarized with respect to the city, turned into prose, and its specific events split off.
 * 3) List of events needs to be summarized with respect to the city, turned into prose, and its specific events split off.
 * 4) Media absolutely needs a summary paragraph, and its specific elements split off.
 * 5) At some point the History section needs to be peer reviewed. It looks good at first glance.
 * 6) Suburbs sub-section is good, but can afford to be moved somewhere else in the article. It's just a matter of where. :-)
 * 7) Need a Quincy skyline picture... I didn't really mean for the one I took to stay up so long. &mdash; Rob  (  talk  ) 18:29, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Feel free to add to this list, or challenge the items presented. &mdash;Rob 17:01, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

Attractions
What are the top three attractions in Quincy? Those stay, the rest go into List of attractions in Quincy, Illinois unless the Talk:Chicago, Illinois page comes up with a more adequate solution. Thanks! &mdash; Rob (  talk  ) 19:43, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

Great Flood breach
I don't know if the West Quincy flood was caused by someone or not, but any information either way needs to be cited. &mdash; Rob (  talk  ) 19:56, 19 April 2006 (UTC)


 * The paragraph you deleted was neither POV (well, maybe except for the word "bad" at the end) nor vandalism. It was at best factually incorrect, although it definitely jibes with my memory of the events.  Why didn't you just tag it with a  ? /blahedo (t) 01:38, 20 April 2006 (UTC)


 * It struck me as just... wrong. The last sentence specifically gives me pause as to whether or not the rest of the contribution is real or imaginary, and therefore vandalism.


 * The barge opened a huge hole in the levee, causing all of West Quincy to be completely submerged in flood water and the nearest gas station to explode when the barge rammed the pumps. 14,000 acres, reaching seven miles inland, was flooded. The young man was found guilty and was given a life sentence for his bad deeds.


 * Where clearly even the most severe types of destruction of property land you, at most, a few years in jail. I have heard of the incident, but this is not the way to address it in the article. &mdash; Rob (  talk  ) 18:34, 20 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Ha-whoops. Brain fart or something, missed the bit about the life sentence.  Yeah, iirc it was long, but maybe like twelve or fifteen years or something.  I'm not even sure even of that much, though.


 * It is definitely the sort of thing that belongs in the article, though, once someone (not me, at least not right now) tracks down the exact facts of the matter. /blahedo (t) 05:58, 21 April 2006 (UTC)


 * If my memory serves me right, I don't even remember any authority catching the person that did it... but yes, that's where research helps. &mdash; Rob (  talk  ) 18:28, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

does anyone know of any history of a beaston family in quincy
just curious...it seems that they were integrated heavily (?) in quincy at one time...please answer here...

Regarding merging in List of people from Quincy, Illinois
I disagree. List is too big to be included in the article. &mdash; Rob (  talk  ) 18:30, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

The problem also is that many people on this list are from an area other than Quincy,and needs more research doen to ensure we can claim these people as "Quincyans" (i.e., James Earl Ray from the Moberly, MO area, Michael Swango who killeed in the area but a local Quincyan??)

Quincy a university town?
The category does not seem appropriate. Mike Linksvayer 03:00, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

I would agree it doesn't qualify as a college town. Quincy doesn't have a huge college student population relative to its size.--tess 23:11, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

This whole article seems to be written by a person who may work for the tourist bureu. As a Quincyan, it makes little sense to claim false "facts" when the town is a decent and well done place to live adn grow, without crazy claims (college town? Trucking hub?)

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"Catbus" drunk driving bus owner arrested
The story there has references if anyone's interested. Kylu (talk) 14:59, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
 * http://jalopnik.com/5604559/how-one-good-samaritan-was-arrested-for-driving-drunks-home?skyline=true&s=i

Sherdan Estates
Someone posted Sherdan Estates as being one of the Quincy suburbs. However, after some investigation, it seems that Sherdan Estates is really more of a subdivision rather then a suburb. As I do not live in this area, I am hesitant to delete it so maybe someone more familiar with the area can assess this claim.Gagman385 (talk) 22:20, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Sheridan estates is a subdivision, not a suburb. I would have caught it earlier, but I haven't been checking Wikipedia as often as I used to (Tigerghost (talk) 04:07, 22 July 2011 (UTC))

deletion of "Government" section
Leaving a note on the talk page to designate a place for the discussion I anticipate will arise from my recent edit. This article is weird to begin with, and it feels like it's been written by someone with a conflict of interest. I find it hard to believe that anyone could have a conflict of interest over the city they live in, but after reading this article... Anyway, this was an out-of-place single-sentence section that was original research and very factual. However, because it is so factual, I think that makes the original research more of a problem than if it were less factual because it's either a "100% right" or a "100 % wrong", with no shades of grey. Please discuss here if you have any problems or anything to say. Thanks. Charles35 (talk) 01:54, 9 January 2013 (UTC)


 * I've spent some time helping to write this article [I even designed the infobox montage]. I didn't create the government section, but I figured that it was informative. I'm neutral on the idea of deleting it. For one, I do not like the idea of having a complete section devoted to one sentence. How do you mean a "conflict of interest"? This article was a lot sloppier before I began editing it, but I didn't wish to delete much because I figured the information was relevant in some way. Still, the article is not up to my standards of a city page. In my opinion, I think the entire article needs to be reworked, restructured, and redone. I cannot do it by myself, and I fear that this article has been abandoned. (Tigerghost (talk) 07:20, 11 January 2013 (UTC))


 * Basically, it feels like it was written by someone with a COI. What that COI is, I do not know. But the tone of the article has a "feel" to it that suggests a COI author. For instance, before this edit, the article claimed that Quincy was an economic and regional "hub" that "anchored" and "catered to" well over 300,000 people. In reality, the city has 40,000 people. That's kind of an exaggeration and is misleading, and uses some funny colorful language (ie catered to, anchors, hub). The only scenario I can imagine is that the primary author is an extremely overzealous Quincian. But I just read at the top of this page someone suggest that the author was a person who works in tourism, which might make sense. Basically, there are a lot of "eccentric" little facts and mannerisms in here, such as the fact that it is a "river city" (in these technologically and industrially advanced times, the term is archaic and rivers make little difference to cities). That's just the way I see it. Charles35 (talk) 06:13, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

Native Peoples of the Quincy region - History vs. hearsay
It should be noted that the native people refered to in the article - the Sauk ( aka Oθaakiiwaki ), Fox ( aka Meskwaki ) were actually from the Northeast, immigrating from the Wisconsin region. The Meskwaki tribe, like the Oθaakiiwaki, originated in the St. Lawrence River Valley in Ontario, later moving to Michigan, Wisconsin, Illinois, and Iowa. The Kickapoo ( aka Kiikaapoa ), inhabited a large territory along the Wabash in the area of modern Terre Haute, Indiana. They were confederated with the larger Wabash Confederacy. No mention is given to the Peoria, Miami, or the Illini confederation ( Illiniwek ) of the Quincy area. There are enough reliable historic resources & references to correctly present the native people of the region, and where those that might have survived are found today. The regional eradication of native language place names and hydronyms reflects a historic period of cultural ethnocide following their removal. In the course of time most surviving Illini moved to a reservation in Kansas. In 1865, they numbered only 220 persons. The Peorias were given a reservation in northeastern Oklahoma. In the 1950's the Peorias numbered 466. There is no need in the present to continue that ethnocide by distorting documented history. Sudowite (talk) 15:39, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

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Slavery section
It is stated in this section that slavery was a "major religious and social issue" in Quincy. No mention of how slavery was a religious issue to Quincy is mentioned however. Were there church leaders causing divisiveness in the community or something?

There doesn't also seem to be any indication of divisiveness in Quincy itself about slavery or how it was a "hotbed". The article discusses it's quarrels with other cities nearby but not so the issues within the city that would make slavery a divisive issue for the city. ChrissyJensen (talk) 22:32, 11 September 2016 (UTC)

Presidential visits
I would say that the presidential visits the city has had would be important to note in this article. Both President Clinton and President Obama visited Quincy. At least in the note about the 2008 flood it would be an interesting fact that then Senator Obama came to the city. ChrissyJensen (talk) 22:37, 11 September 2016 (UTC)

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Why does Jesus Tree redirect here?
I was looking up Jesus Tree and it redirected here.

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Orphaned references in Quincy, Illinois
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