Talk:Quiz bowl/Archive 1

(usually)
I find that the three (usually) statements in the first paragraph seem really unprofessional. Someone more experienced with this article would do a good service to remove them. --71.113.162.164 04:25, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Based on the geographically diverse nature of quizbowl, there really is no other way to describe the format except as usually consisting of 2 teams of 4 players on 15-20 question rounds. One state uses 5 players per team (Illinois), 1 national format uses more than 2 teams in a match (Panasonic Nationals) and most rounds do last from 15-20 questions, although NAQT runs up to 26, some Illinois formats can run to 24 or 30, and some formats are completely different and can have up to 65 (Panasonics, for one). "Usually" is the only true way to describe these facets of quizbowl. However, if it's an aesthetic quality you think it lacks, suggest your way - it may very well be better than what is currently there. Styxman 05:34, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I've edited the first paragraph to both improve the style and to make it apply to pretty much every form of legitimate quiz bowl without resorting to kludges. Note: I am not the initiator of this discussion, but I agree that the previous wording was stylistically suspect. Buzzerzen 14:22, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Permission
Hi Qbmessiah, do you have special permission to use the contents of http://www.gwu.edu/~trivia/qbasics.html (where you found this article, apparently)?

The article was developed from an F.A.Q. and reposted on the gwu site (see usenet's alt.college.college-bowl for another version). It is public domain in the quizbowl community. It probably should be rewritten for style reasons, when time becomes available.

Some older versions http://groups.google.com/groups?q=quiz+bowl+FAQ&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=2dlbvd%24c8%40netnews.upenn.edu&rnum=5

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=college+bowl+FAQ&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=4ngp0j%24g5s%40epx.cis.umn.edu&rnum=3

Based on: Quiz Bowl Basics

Author : George Atendido, October 1997 (minor update qbmessiah April 2002)

Thanks to Hayden Hurst for formatting this page.

dml

"In particular, ACF, CBCI, HCASC, NAQT and UC each have distinctive formats. Also, certain tournaments and programs have developed their own distinctive formats. A few of them include the University of Pennsylvania (Penn Bowl), University of Michigan MLK, Stanford University, and Deep Bench (University of Minnesota/Carleton College)."

So what is "distinctive" about Penn Bowl, et al? They're all just minor variations on acf/naqt rules. This seems a bit misleading. Gamaliel 00:32, 1 Aug 2004 (UTC)

QB Wikipedians
I'm wondering if we could set up a list of qb playing wikipedians, just for the sake of curiousity. I'll add my screenname.


 * Dinopup
 * Off the top of my head -- Me, mindspillage, Adam Bishop, and David Levinson &rarr;Raul654 23:24, Apr 22, 2005 (UTC)
 * Am I really that forgettable? :-P Isomorphic 03:18, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Me too. Anyone else at NAQT nationals?  We may have met and not even known it. Gamaliel 23:48, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * I was at NAQT nats back in 2002 when they were at UCLA. &rarr;Raul654 23:59, Apr 22, 2005 (UTC)
 * Went to NAQT ICT this year at Tulane in New Orleans (it's an hour away), and updated the 2005 ICT winners. :-> --Christopherlin 02:10, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * I played at NAQT nationals in St. Louis a few years ago (Division II). I still moderate things occasionally (I was at Penn Bowl this year.) Isomorphic 03:18, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * OntarioQuizzer is another fellow Canadian quiz bowler. Adam Bishop 05:56, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * I'm a college quiz bowler, so I'll add myself here -Wiccan Quagga 07:03, 15 July 2005 (UTC)
 * KingTT 05:14, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
 * TheyCallMePanda 00:09, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Marudita, but on the middle school level (yes there is one). Our team sucks.
 * Isabella123, I'm a high school quizbowler.
 * Sabine01, -- Former college QBer, current college QB advisor. :) Sabine01 21:59, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Zagalejo -- I was a high school Scholastic Bowl player (at Loyola Academy); I also played briefly at Loyola University Chicago before the team fizzled away.
 * Agape--I played in fourth grade, ninth grade, and highschool.
 * 42 pwnzor 21:31, 27 September 2006 (UTC)I played in Middle and High school.
 * PKNinja - Currently playing in high school, may or may not play in college.
 * MUZ 21:48, 9 October 2006 (UTC) - play for my high school, definitely want to play in college
 * Dave Porter 21:56, 25 October 2006 (UTC)- I played for three years in high school, and am returning as a college sophomore
 * Kevingamer, I play in IHSA Scholastic Bowl.
 * ArtifexCrastinus 03:28, 8 February 2007 (UTC), Alabama HS Academic Team
 * User:Aerodotus - Always wanted to play and have played since last year.
 * User: ryan shell and User: will dwane are on the same team, (we're high school players)
 * User:SamuelRiv - IHSA Sko-Bo 2000-2003, NAQT Academic 2003-2007 - 06:43, 25 November 2007 (UTC
 * User:Dragonspell13- I'm on middle school quiz bowl team. Our team is pretty good.
 * User:Doin'Huh3.5- Same here(middle school Quizbowl, i mean)! We came in 3rd in our league last year! —Preceding undated comment was added at 19:25, 1 November 2008 (UTC).

Project: Quizbowl Answers
At User:DavidLevinson/ACF-Answers00 I have placed the answers (reformatted obviously) to the ACF regionals from 2000 (more or less randomly picked, though easy for me to script). The interesting things are what has blue lines (links) and what has red lines (no articles). The blue lines show how comprehensive Wikipedia is. The red lines of course are often alternative names and spellings which should have redirects, though there is the occasional glaring hole.

What I propose for the project is:
 * 1: Put all of the answers from all tournaments in Wikipedia format
 * 2: Ensure there are articles or redirects from every answer that deserves one

This will help ensure the quizbowl canon has wikipedia articles, and may in the future help quizbowl writers stay within the plausible.

Comments? Should this be a WikiProject? dml 29 June 2005 22:11 (UTC)
 * The Gulf of Bahrain doesn't have an article?? I don't know if this would actually make a WikiProject, but it certainly sounds like a good idea. Anything that comes up in quiz bowl is likely to be encyclopedic. Isomorphic 29 June 2005 23:12 (UTC)


 * I set up List of quizbowl answers to provide a directory for these pages dml 1 July 2005 01:30 (UTC)


 * I think that's a really really bad idea. This is the sort of meta-data that should be in your user space like it was before, or on a Wikipedia: page, like the other lists of encyclopedia topics. It definitely should not be in the article space. Adam Bishop 1 July 2005 04:01 (UTC)
 * Agreed. Please remove list of quizbowl answers and ACF Regionals 2000 Answers from the main namespace.  These clearly belongs in either the user namespace or the Wikipedia namespace, but they are not part of the encyclopedia. Isomorphic 1 July 2005 07:10 (UTC)
 * Just to pile on with the above, I too agree. This sort of thing is analagous to 2004 Encyclopedia topics, which if you'll notice, is in the Wikipedia namespace. &rarr;Raul654 July 1, 2005 07:14 (UTC)


 * Moved to * List of quizbowl answers. Now help contribute.

Some deletionists have put the page on votes for deletion, despite it being in the Wikipedia namespace. FYI see the following links: dml 7 July 2005 18:03 (UTC)
 * Votes for deletion/List of quizbowl answers
 * Votes for deletion/ACF Regionals 2000 answers
 * Votes for deletion/ACF Regionals 2001 answers

dml 7 July 2005 18:03 (UTC)

Just browsing casually over those lists, I identified a couple useful redirects and added them. Looks like a useful project. Thanks David. Quizbowl answers are also good for reminding us that even though Wikipedia has a huge number of articles, our content is weighted heavily toward current events and trash. Hardcore ACF answers are still likely to be red links. Wikipedia still has a ways to go. Isomorphic 04:23, 16 July 2005 (UTC)

IHSA Format
There is no set restrictions on the number of toss-up for regular season matches in Illinois format, however, the State series always has 30 toss-up/bonus combinations with replacements. I edited the section, but I'm sure someone can clean it up better than me.

Format comparison
Following some debate on Talk:College Bowl about the perceived strengths and weaknesses of the various formats, I propose collecting/centralizing the discussion of formats in one place. I'm thinking a section in here or Quizbowl formats, with each article about the four major non-trash formats (i.e. ACF, CBI, NAQT, HCASC) with a section like "comparison with other quizbowl formats". Distributions are listed in various places. A few I found are as follows:


 * http://www.collegebowl.com/games/qdistribution.asp
 * http://www.umich.edu/~uac/mac/rules/appendix2002.html
 * http://www.naqt.com/2006-collegiate-survey.html
 * http://www.dpo.uab.edu/~paik/acf/fall.html

The idea is to illustrate that the games are different in tangible ways, showing that players may prefer one over the other, to the point of "de-affiliation" with CBI.

Your thoughts? --Christopherlin 19:22, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

OK, I'm thinking it might be time to break this article up or otherwise spawn a number of articles. For example, the article about the Lithuanian game certainly doesn't belong with the state formats. Also, the description of the state formats may well deserve their own article. I don't want to do this alone, but this article is getting a bit long, IMO Shawn Pickrell 22:40, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

A Canadian "High Q" (or a different spelling with similar sounding)
I'm not sure if anyone may remember, but does anyone, most probably from Alberta, remember a Canadian academic quiz show called High Q, which was produced for years in Edmonton? I watched this program for years on CITV (now Global Edmonton) on cable via the CANCOM system in eastern Canada (except for a 4-year gap when I moved from one town to another in the same area) until the series ended in the mid/late '90s. The host in Edmonton (I remember his name but don't want to get it wrong) still works for the station as a weather presenter during the morning (and some afternoon) newscasts. Maple Leaf fan &#39;04 17:54, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

P.S.: I may have a fuzzy memory but I still remember the show well.

Study pages?
Are there any pages intended specifically for players to study? It seems to me, that it would only be natural for Wikipedia to host some of such pages. To clarify, I'm looking for lists of major works of classic literature and their authors. Also: • US Presidents, the span of their terms, and wars/battles that occurred during their terms, pictures. • Mathematical equations and terms • Interesting words? I can't think of much more now. But I think you get the idea.

So, are they anywhere here yet? Or a list of external links to these things? --ArtifexCrastinus 03:26, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Pictures
This article lacks pictures. I'm greatly tempted to take some at tomorrow's Maryland tournament and post them in this article. Raul654 21:35, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

Matt Weiner
Matt Weiner needs WP recognition. I haven't played that long, but he is the greatest player I've ever seen. I'm adding a snippet to the NAQT page, but does he deserve an article, or at least a redirect to NAQT? SamuelRiv (talk) 06:46, 25 November 2007 (UTC)


 * No, of course not. Don't be silly. Adam Bishop (talk) 17:36, 25 November 2007 (UTC)


 * After further consideration, I've added a notable individuals section to the NAQT page, but that's it. Basically, I stumbled on a blog called "Fire Matt Weiner's Head" last night, and that got me strolling down memory lane of 2005 ICT. SamuelRiv (talk) 19:23, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

please leave me out of this disasterpiece Matt weiner&#39;s head (talk) 07:13, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Links
I added a link to the new Quizbowl Wiki (http://www.doc-ent.com/qbwiki). Also, it seems like hsquizbowl should be moved up in the link order, as it's at least more important to quizbowl these days than the Yahoo Message Board group. And it's probably a good idea to mention that it doesn't just cover high school quizbowl. --Ikillkenny (talk) 17:31, 14 December 2007 (UTC)