Talk:Rāhula/GA2

GA Review
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Reviewer: MX (talk · contribs) 21:53, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

Review
Will review. Stay put! MX ( ✉  •  ✎  ) 21:53, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks, !-- Farang Rak Tham   (Talk) 11:23, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm reading over the article and noticed a lot of it is written in present-tense instead of past-tense (i.e. "Rāhula is born on same day Prince Siddhārtha Gautama renounces the throne by leaving the palace", which uses "is" instead of "was"). Since we're covering people and accounts from the past, shouldn't it be written in past tense?
 * , I meant to write in historical present tense to keep a skeptical, encyclopedic tone. But I've been told before it doesn't work, so if you want me to change it to past tense, I can do that.-- Farang Rak Tham   (Talk) 20:56, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Please do. I went to the article about Jesus and noticed they use present tense only when paraphrasing events from the scriptures. Ping me when this is done and I'll start my review. In the meantime, I'll be checking sources and continue reading the article to familiarize with it. It looks ripe for promotion as it stands. Thanks! MX ( ✉  •  ✎  ) 21:53, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
 * , ✅.-- Farang Rak Tham   (Talk) 13:01, 18 September 2019 (UTC)

Accounts

 * – Would it be reasonable to ask when these "early texts" were written? Like the era (example: 4th–5th century CE). It may give readers a bit of context that time.
 * Good idea, but is quite an extensive subject which is hard to surmise here. I have wikilinked to Early Buddhist Texts. Will that do?-- Farang Rak Tham   (Talk) 12:31, 20 September 2019 (UTC)


 * – Question: How is Gautama Buddha usually referred to? Prince Siddhārtha? Prince? Siddhārtha? Or another name? I'm asking because there are instances when you write "Prince Siddhārtha" and sometimes "Prince". I don't know anything about the subject so I want to make sure we're sticking to his most common name.
 * He is most commonly referred to by scholars as "Prince Siddhārtha" before attaining enlightenment, and "the Buddha" after enlightenment. I sometimes switch to the prince for stylistic reasons, to not make the writing stilted.-- Farang Rak Tham   (Talk) 12:31, 20 September 2019 (UTC)

Pāli tradition

 * – I think it should be in "quotations" but please correct me if I'm wrong.
 * . I am not sure whether MOS:SINGLE is valid here, so I have corrected this.-- Farang Rak Tham   (Talk) 12:37, 20 September 2019 (UTC)


 * – "... first and only son" is fine since it would imply it was his last.
 * ✅.-- Farang Rak Tham   (Talk) 12:37, 20 September 2019 (UTC)

Other traditions

 * Great section overall. Excellent explanation of the other versions regarding his birth
 * Thank you.-- Farang Rak Tham   (Talk) 12:41, 20 September 2019 (UTC)


 * – Virginity?
 * Purity in conduct. .-- Farang Rak Tham   (Talk) 12:41, 20 September 2019 (UTC)


 * – Back to my original question of using "Prince", "Buddha", etc. Why don't we stick to one?
 * Let's discuss this above.-- Farang Rak Tham   (Talk) 12:41, 20 September 2019 (UTC)


 * – Welcomed
 * Oops. -- Farang Rak Tham   (Talk) 12:41, 20 September 2019 (UTC)

Scholarly analysis

 * Good section here. Just a bit confused on the . Did Buddha intend to leave secretly at night?
 * Expanded-- Farang Rak Tham   (Talk) 12:46, 20 September 2019 (UTC)

Ordination

 * – Just a suggestion, but instead of doing this why don't you copyedit it to "When Rāhula was between seven and fifteen years old...", and then add a footnote explaining the discrepancy between the sources. It reads smoother and can give readers a better understanding of how the sources may differ.
 * Good idea. ✅.-- Farang Rak Tham   (Talk) 12:57, 20 September 2019 (UTC)


 * – IMO, the sentence should end with "...and he was told." And then continue with this, though it naturally flows better as a footnote.
 * ✅.-- Farang Rak Tham   (Talk) 12:57, 20 September 2019 (UTC)


 * In addition, it reads better with "without a father".
 * ✅.-- Farang Rak Tham   (Talk) 12:57, 20 September 2019 (UTC)


 * – Run-on sentence, consider restructuring.
 * . Split.-- Farang Rak Tham   (Talk) 12:57, 20 September 2019 (UTC)


 * – "Rāhula followed and asked him for his inheritance", or something similar.
 * ✅.-- Farang Rak Tham   (Talk) 12:57, 20 September 2019 (UTC)


 * – "Rāhula was ordained and became the first śrāmaṇera (novice monk)"
 * .-- Farang Rak Tham   (Talk) 12:57, 20 September 2019 (UTC)


 * – Should it be "...were ordained together..."?
 * Right, my mistake. several instances.--  Farang Rak Tham   (Talk) 12:57, 20 September 2019 (UTC)

Enlightenment and death

 * Great section here, no issues found. This section is a bit long so I'll give it a second read later.
 * Okay, thanks.-- Farang Rak Tham   (Talk) 20:23, 21 September 2019 (UTC)

Previous lives

 * Short and good section.

Legacy

 * – Is this true now, or was it true some time in the past? I just want to make sure this info isn't written in present-tense when it shouldn't be, since info in Wikipedia can easily be outdated.
 * . He is stated to be alive until the next Buddha will arise, so yes, that would mean he is still alive now. But i have rephrased it to sound more encyclopedic.-- Farang Rak Tham   (Talk) 20:38, 21 September 2019 (UTC)

Childhood in Buddhism

 * – What does this mean? Further explanation would help readers understand a bit more.
 * . Specified per source.-- Farang Rak Tham   (Talk) 20:58, 21 September 2019 (UTC)

September 2019
Thanks for your review,. Much appreciated!-- Farang Rak Tham   (Talk) 12:55, 22 September 2019 (UTC)