Talk:R-Truth/Archive 1

Strange fact
I thought I should mention that even though the WWE does not recognize R-Truth's prevoius WWE tenure on TV, it is mentioned in the WWE Encyclopedia that he used to wrestle with them as K-Kwik. -- crinos43

Debuted on Raw in a dark match
Up to you all if you want to put it in. I can't be bothered. 141.155.22.60 (talk) 19:11, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Yea, Killings has wrestled in the RAW Dark Maches for the past few weeks. Beating guys like Trevor Murosch, Paul london, Nick Nemeth, etc. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.47.241.20 (talk) 16:40, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

=2006=

One Last Deal
Any truth to his one last deal getting him caught? It sounds like the plot to the movie "Blow"...Oops I just spoild the end. --Ganley894 14:14, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Malik Shabazz
Why does "Malik Shabazz" lead to this page? It should lead to Malcolm X.
 * he used it as a ring name. (k. malik shabazzzzz (z))

African-American Champion
Why does it say he was the second black person to win the NWA Title? I just checked the list of former champions and I can't see any black champions before him. Perhaps the person who wrote that was thinking of Ron Simmons(who won the WCW Championship). TJ Spyke 03:52, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Bob Brazil was a former NWA champ.(Halbared 07:04, 8 August 2006 (UTC))
 * Bobo Brazil is not recognized by the NWA as a former champion. TJ Spyke 20:40, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

he quit?
When did the truth quit? i think its a rumor


 * after Hard Justice. The evidence supporting this is substantial.

too cool?
why shouldn't the rumor of a new too cool with scotty 2 hotty,grandmaster sexay,hisself,and rikishi be in the article? check the too cool article for info. Rollinman 31 August 2006 (UTC)

the answer is simple, you said it yourself actually.... it's a rumour —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.45.117.138 (talk) 20:05, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Quitting
Until he is removed from the TNA roster, his profile has been taken off of TNA's website, and or WWE announces that they have signed him, it is nothing more than a rumor. ~Sept 21, 2006 C.T.~

Mexican Wrestling
i could have sworn i seen him and Konnan on one of the Mexican wrestling shows. Can anyone confirm this...I know Konan was there for sure..ChicanoJ 02:26, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I think that was when they were wrestling in AAA.

=2007=

The Truth vs. John Cena?
I had not heard about this. Can someone please give more details? What did he say? Indie -0 04:36, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

=2008=

Killings in WWE?
Should we really have Killings being signed to the WWE on the main page considering that I don't believe Killings or the WWE have come right out and said that he has signed? The only confirmation we have been given is an internet report that only says that Killings said he signed. It's not like Killings actually came right out and publicly stated it.

It should be added back because of the fact that he stated it himself, so he basically told the public, are you waiting until you see him in WWE(T.V)?...people have added new signees before they apeared on WWE t.v in wiki articles before so I dont see the problem. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Soulja nyn3 (talk • contribs) 01:25, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
 * No because it is not sourced by WWE itself.-- Tr U cO 93 11 TaLk / SiGn 03:09, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

To 1st responder, unless Killings has announced it via an official source (like a personal website or an actual interview where we can verify that it is him) or the WWE announce it via an official source then it is just a rumour. Just because somebody heard it heresay from somebody who said they talked to Ron Killings doesn't make it official —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.45.117.138 (talk) 22:06, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

He stated in this interview that he would be returning to WWE as K-Kwik after he finished working on the movie the wrestler with Mickey Rourke http://www.wrestlezone.com/column.php?articleid=202759435 Lbm5007 (talk) 00:54, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

WWE are actually waiting for him to pass the physical and drug test before signing him. http://www.wrestle-complex.com/headlines/backstage_details_on_ron_killings_to_wwe_his_.shtml

Ron wrestled in a dark match before last night RAW tapings deafeting Paul London. http://www.wrestleview.com/news2008/1206428594.shtml —Preceding unsigned comment added by Miroa12004 (talk • contribs) 15:47, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

He has also wrestled a dark match before the March 28 Smackdown! taping. http://www.wrestlezone.com/article.php?articleid=208558471


 * All of those are non-reliable sources. –Cheers, L  A  X  15:06, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Even though one of them is an audio interview. ::rollseyes:: Mshake3 (talk) 16:43, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

why carnt it be put dawn hes in wwe its on the wwe roster page 172.201.134.157 (talk) 23:34, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Ron has been making alot of apperences in dark matches for wwe before Raw and Smackdown.Add it he's a wwe manJoe ferst (talk) 23:40, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Here are some websites that tell about it.... http://www.wrestling-online.com/news/News_9/Ron_Killings_wrestles_dark_match_at_RAW.shtml http://www.wrestlinginc.com/news/2008/326/ron_killings_319975.shtml http://www.tv.com/ron-killings/person/111877/summary.html http://www.wrestling101.com/101/newsitem/5421/ Joe ferst (talk) 23:48, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Wow, do you guys not understand that those sites are not reliable and dark matches are not official debuts, as it could be a one time thing, we all know he is with WWE but it can't be added until a official source states it. 3 L   V  a  K 3  r  0  00:21, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Well what in the world is a reliable source? We are not stupid and we all know its true. I saw hime in a dark match!!!! Joe ferst (talk) 00:33, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

The reason the real truth can't be stated is because we all seem to be stuck in the late 80s, where people didnt know what was going on. I think people have to realise that those who say RK in dark matches arent lying, and perhaps that alone is worth a mention, I mean if you look at a soccer players page, there are links to rumours from the most dubious sources, so something which is commonly agreed on here should be fine, but it's the stubborn people who would like to control the article, who think that until Vinny Mac wears it on a T-Shirt in the middle of the ring, then we cant write anything. 81.110.36.3 (talk) 18:35, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Well WP:PW has a stricter policy, if WP:SOCCER doesn't have a strict policy, that is their problem, but Wikipedia is not a Crystal Ball. There is no reliable source that states the Killings is in WWE, a reliable source is WWE.com/TNA.com/ESPN.com/or WWE Affiliated Websites. Wrestlezone/PW Headlines/Pro Wrestling Scoops411 Mania/PW Insider/etc. are not reliable sources.20:04, 21 April 2008 (UTC)~ S R  S ~

Then why is it sourced on other articles? Also, surely the sight of him is more proof than we need? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.110.36.3 (talk) 15:33, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Sites like those are in other articles for results, not for reporting news, which Wikipedia is not. Also, even if you did sight him, that is not reliable, you need a reliable source to back it up.~ S R  S ~ 22:01, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Would taking a picture of him in the ring suffice, or would you be of the opinion that it is not dated? He will be on television in the next few weeks anyway, and I think the wrestling editors need to think a little about the way this sort of thing has been dealt with, I know some people dont want it to be "spoiled" for them, in the case of build-up vignettes, but anything that is common knowldge, should be on here, and this is exactly what I just mentioned. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.110.46.203 (talk) 20:57, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Truco, they've got a point. If several websites state it, and if a user claims to have seen him, then it should be posted. But, if WrestleZone.com ain't a reliable source, then what the hell is? WWE.com would be, but it doesn't post dark matches on its website! So, what's the deal? THE  $ R $  Habla! Hancock  02:45, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

I myself have not done a review of the websites listed as sources. For he record, WP:RS is the policy used to determine if a website is reliable or not. I encourage everyone involved to read over this policy (again). Cheers,  - The Hybrid -  02:48, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

I have bigger issues with this. It lists him as signed to the wwe but it isnt sourced, and it isnt mentioned in the main article itself. Sourcing would be nice.67.52.102.250 (talk) 21:23, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Very good point. I've removed it. Thank you. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 21:26, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

hear hes gonna be on SD
There is talk all around Ron Killings is debut in wwe tv on 7/11/08 on SmackDown under his TNA Name Ron "The Truth" Killings because TNA didn't copyright the name. —Preceding unsigned comment added by InfernoAdrenaline (talk • contribs) 14:58, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Source? Plus no speculation please.-- S  R  X  -- Latino  Heat  15:07, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

No it's true, it's not because TNA didn't trademark the name it's because Ron Killings is his REAL name. I went to a RAW show and Killings wrestled some jobber in a dark match, the name he went under was Ron "The Truth" Killings. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.47.241.20 (talk) 16:48, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

But rumor has it that the WWE is going to be using the name R-Truth for Killings http://www.wrestlinginc.com/news/2008/722/matt_hardy_332852.shtml so they can trademark it —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.47.241.20 (talk) 01:43, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Found a potential source on Dark matches for WWE
On the Nick Nemeth Article - On May 12, 2008 he wrestled under the name Nick Metro and lost in a dark match to Ron Killings

http://www.onlineworldofwrestling.com/results/raw/_080512/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Numyht (talk • contribs) 19:45, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

http://www.onlineworldofwrestling.com/results/raw/_080602/ http://www.onlineworldofwrestling.com/results/raw/_080526/
 * Also, http://www.onlineworldofwrestling.com/results/raw/_080616/

On top of that, http://www.wrestlinginc.com/news/2008/722/ron_killings_332755.shtml - his ring name —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.47.241.20 (talk) 16:47, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Ron Killings' New Ring name
On this weeks episode of Smackdown vintages began running hyping the debut of R-Truth, the new ring name of Ron Killings. http://www.pwinsider.com/ViewArticle.php?id=32290&p=1 http://www.wrestlinginc.com/news/2008/722/matt_hardy_332852.shtml http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=72784695

Return To WWE
I just removed the information about his WWE return, the info can be added back when he is officially advertised for a return (after this weeks smackdown airs) or when he makes his official tv return. Edgehead5150 (talk) 03:13, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Well the dark matches count and I am glad they are mentioned. Kieranburke1 (talk) 04:09, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Can someone get a different pic
The current picture of R Truth is bad. Is it possible to get a new one, please. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.188.227.30 (talk) 21:33, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Real name
His real name is Ronnie A. Killings: http://webapps6.doc.state.nc.us/apps/offender/offend1?DOCNUM=0225441&SENTENCEINFO=yes&SHOWPHOTO=yes&numtimesin=1 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.48.255.216 (talk) 11:34, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Last Sentenc
The last sentence sounds really bad. "He has curently been involve in a feud with Shelton Benjamin winning several matches and appearing in in ring promos" It should be fixed or deleted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.225.37.59 (talk) 23:46, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

PHOTO!
change the pic it stinks like cow poo change it its rubbish or ill take away - change it - ill give 2 daysKalajan (talk) 20:32, 4 November 2008 (UTC) Just a few hours left... kalajan(talk)

Question about his time in the WWF
"After Road Dogg was gang raped in December, Killings became a singles competitor." Um...what? ¬ MysteryHam (talk) 05:00, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Monday Night Raw skit?
Who's the dumbass who says he was killed in that skit on Raw this past week? I hadn't seen it till now, my housemate just showed me, but its quite obvious it was nothing more than a skit. Do the powers that be on here not pay that much attention to this stuff??123.2.104.129 (talk) 15:51, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

=2009=

Moveset
A couple of things aren't right. For one, his newest finisher Lie Detector, was a normal move called Flying Jalepeño before two weeks ago (edit made 6-29). That's my main concern, that there are still separately listed. I think the main reason is because one says "flying elbow" and the other says "flying forearm". The two look the same to me and it just depends on how the announcers call it, and JR said elbow so elbow it is. A side note, the moveset also states that he still uses Truth Conviction today, which he doesn't. Just sayin'. --Oxico (talk) 23:32, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

pretty ricky
R-Truth Pretty Ricky is an alter-ego so please post 65.26.227.48 (talk) 00:54, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Orphaned references in Ron Killings
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=2010=

Elimination Chamber match
My addition on Ron Killings being inluding in the Elimination Chamber world title match was not simply a weekly update but because it was his first ever time in a world title match in WWE and felt it was a milestone in his WWE career. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.194.6.134 (talk) 15:49, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Future matches are not supposed to be included. After the PPV, it can be added (although it would have to be sourced that it is his first world title match in WWE).  TJ   Spyke   16:47, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

Creating a disambiguation page?
With the recent news of a different Ron Killings on trial for the reckless homicide of a child, do you think it's necessary to create a disambiguation page to differentiate between the two? Given all of the recent trouble with WWE superstars and law enforcement, I wouldn't want anyone to think R-Truth was currently defending himself in the judicial process. Nangbaby (talk) 20:40, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Unless that person has a article on Wikipedia, no. Not a chance.  TJ   Spyke   21:59, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

Can someone delete/edit the "best friend & entourage" part?
It looks like it was written by a 9 year old. This is just his character, as we don't know for sure. Also, the introduction in the beginning is redundant at the end. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.250.209.149 (talk) 16:03, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
 * It has been removed as per No original research. Regards --Bocafan76 (talk) 16:49, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

Added entrance themes from TNA era
I know this may be debated. In 2003, Killings did an album called "Invinceable". In fact, I'm listening to it right now. He came out to "What's My Name" Instrumental. The album has him rapping to it. He also came out to Still Gettin' Rowdy's Instrumental; where he raps in the album version. He had two 3Live Kru themes that he rapped to and came out to which I added. The first is "3Live K" and the second is "Beware" which I added. I also added that he was in "The Wrestler" as per his IMDB page.Marty2Hotty (talk) 08:09, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

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