Talk:R.O.D the TV

Title
Title should be 'R.O.D the TV', has never officially been called "Read Or Die: The TV" (presumably since it's a sequel to both the Read or Die OVAs and the Read or Dream Manga). Shiroi Hane 21:31, 18 August 2005 (UTC)
 * I have listed it on the Requested moves page. Obviously because I did, this counts as a Support for move.--Mitsukai 20:29, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
 * The redirect only has one edit. You should be able to just move this over it. -Aranel (" Sarah ") 23:32, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

This article has been renamed after the result of a move request. Please fix the remaining redirects. Dragons flight 03:27, September 2, 2005 (UTC)

Entry on Wendy
''Seen in the OVA as Joker's office secretary, she now serves as his right hand henchwoman. Wendy's character has matured radically from the typical anime bumbling but dedicated ditz into your typical anime ruthless, sociopathic domme (apparently in the manga she's always been competent and serious). She hates Yomiko, and is also one of the few B.R.L. personnel in on Joker's scheme.''

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sociopath Wendy is NOT a sociopath. I understand the term's used very lightly nowadays, but at least in Wikipedia it should be used right. A sociopath is virtually unable to feel guilt, which we see Wendy feel when she tells Junior he can have his revenge when he comes back. Sociopaths are extremely reckless and impulsive, both of which Wendy is not as she is a key player in Joker's scheme. Sociopaths have either unrealistic long term plans or none at all, and Wendy seems to have her long-term plans well in order. Excuse me if you think I'm exaggerating (sp?) but I hate to see the term flung around like that. If I'm wrong and there's a different meaning for the word, please indulge me.

Yomiko in R.o.D the TV
I don't think it was ever hinted at until after we meet Yomiko that Joker and the others were involved in her downfall, just that it was sometime around the fall of the British Empire and the destruction of the British Library that she also vanished. Sometime right after the I-Jin Incident. Is this wrong? I made an edit to reflect this idea but this is right isn't it? We only learn the truth after meeting her and before then we just see Joker as evil, but have no clue until Yomiko tells us that he was directly (indirectly) responsible for her disppearance? Ryokosha 01:41, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

Various Edits
Cleaned up this article a bit, both grammar-wise (there were a lot of comma splices, for one) and to a lesser extent content-wise. I changed references to "British Royal Library" to just the "British Library"--I don't believe the institution ever had "Royal" in the title either in the R.O.D. stories or in real life (http://www.bl.uk). I removed the reference to Wendy as a "sociopathic domme" as I agree the term is being used incorrectly here (and moreover the description is not quite accurate), and otherwise clarified some other character descriptions. Even with spoiler warnings, I tried to remove references to particularly dramatic moments/revelations in the series where possible. I added the bit of trivia about the final line in the series. DQ, 31 July 2006

Aired on G4TechTV
The series is starting to be broadcasted on G4TechTV Canada.

--Amp e rsand2006 ( &amp; ) 02:03, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
 * It also aired on the USA G4TV at least as early as 2004. --DocumentN (talk) 03:45, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Eva Reference

 * The final line in the story, "The Paper's in her heaven, and all is right with the world," is a pun of Robert Browning's "God's in his heaven, all's right with the world" because in Japanese, "kami" can mean both "Paper" and "God." Browning's line is quoted by Anne as the concluding sentence of the novel Anne of Green Gables, a book frequently referred to in the TV series.

I have seen an anime that got that exact same line: Neon Genesis Evangelion. It might be possible, but hidden at most, that the line may be referenced to the aforementioned anime. --Seishirou Sakurazuka 23:43, 12 December 2006 (UTC)


 * I sincerely doubt it. The quote is definitely originally from Browning (http://www.bartleby.com/101/718.html) and definitely the last line of Anne of Green Gables (http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~rgs/anne-XXXVIII.html). Given the series' repeated references to Anne of Green Gables, I would confidently say that this is the intended reference. Why would an anime that is known for constant references to LITERATURE make a reference to an anime that has no connection to it? That both R.O.D the TV and Eva both refer to the same line is more likely coincidence--Browning's quote is well-known within its own poem and as quoted by Anne, and Anne is especially popular in Japan, so a lot of people would recognize it in both cases. DeathQuaker 25 January 2007

DVD details?
Perhaps someone should add details pertaining to the DVD release? I came to the page hoping to find that info but it wasn't here. -- —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Robomaster (talk • contribs) 17:06, 20 January 2007 (UTC).

Michelle's Name, Alice Alice, and other Questions and Edits
1. I've seen Michelle's name edited and re-edited, so I've put a clarifying note on the page and I am noting it here: according to screenshots of the TV series and other sources (I'll dig them up if I need to), Michelle's surname is romanized "Cheung," just like actress Maggie Cheung. Yes, the Geneon subtitles translate as "Chan" at the beginning of the series--that's because the kana literally spell out "Chan" -- but they change the spelling to "Cheung" later on.

2. Alice Alice's surname in the series is spelled out as "Arquette." The original entry here read "Arkwart." I'm pretty sure the first is correct. Also, I edited her entry to say she was seeking the Key, not the Book of (Thingy) Blood, which is what we see in episode 9. If any of this needs to be corrected, please do so, provided you have accurate information supporting it.

3. I removed a comment that Maggie is "probably agoraphobic." While certainly claustrophilic, there is absolutely no indication that she has a fear of open spaces.

4. I added in spoiler warnings in the character sections, as huge plot points are spoiled throughout. I believe there used to be a spoiler warning here which someone removed. I humbly request that any editors to PLEASE not remove it again, unless you remove the actual plot spoilers as well. Come to think of it, should there just be a plot summary section added so the character section can be cleaner and more brief?

5. I changed Drake's bio to say that he is a mercenary who has worked for the British Library, not a British Library field agent. Dialogue in both the OVA and the TV series indicates he's not on the Library's regular payroll, but hired for specific missions (hence why he is mostly unaware of what's going on in the British Library recently). If this continues to be debatable, perhaps the information should be edited to be more vague.

6. Fixed a lot of grammatical errors. And please note that with very few exceptions, periods and commas live inside quotation marks, not outside them. I note this because this inconsistency shows up a lot in this article. Yes, nitpicky. But I'm a copy editor. Sue me.

DeathQuaker 17:14, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

What Happened to the Trivia Section?
I recall there being a Trivia section on this page, discussing some literary and pop culture references (such as the "Heroic Trio" reference now, somewhat more out of place, listed in the "characters" section. It seemed useful and interesting. Why did it go away? DeathQuaker 17:18, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Offshoot articles
R.O.D might need an article on Nenene some time soon. She is virtually the main character of the show and has quite a developed character. It's also about time that we started fixing the broken links to Koji Masunari and the seiyu of the characters. Eternal dragon 09:55, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Characters
Hi all, I'm just going to start a list page of characters from all R.O.D manga an anime and may link off articles like this to it. I think this would be a good idea but if you have thoughts please contact. æt 'ə' rnal 'ðrAعon'  → 09:56, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 04:45, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Review(s)

 * ANN: Complete BR
 * Mania.com: Complete BR
 * AICN

--KrebMarkt (talk) 18:49, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

R.O.D the TV Drama CD
Is it possible to include information about this? (The following summary is original, but based on the existing references.)

Unknown to many fans outside of Japan, the series was continued in a fourteen-chapter drama CD, written by Hideyuki Kurata and simply titled R.O.D -THE CD-. It was released by Aniplex and Sony Music Distribution (Japan) Inc. in October 2005. Most of the main characters make appearances except for Yomiko Readman given that Rieko Miura was unavailable for recording.

The first half of the story follows Anita King as she enters Year Two (the equivalent of Eighth Grade) at Nishihama Junior High School and her ensuing drama with her classmate, Toru Okahara, which involves an ongoing school competition to one-up each other. (Though Okahara appears to be the central focus; he opens Chapter One by commanding the other characters meta-referencing their voice actors to perform the drama CD properly.) A B-plot centers around Anita's sisters, Michelle and Maggie and their domestic shenanigans with Nenene before the women become entangled in Anita's school life. An entire chapter is dedicated to Natsume Nishizono, her writer sister, Haruhi and their extended family, Akie and Fuyuhiko (two new characters that do not appear in the show).

The second half of the CD shifts gears to Junior who transfers to Anita's class, followed by his mother, Nancy who also claims to be a new student (despite her thirty-something age). This greatly embarrasses Junior as he attempts to navigate a normal social life. The girls in Anita's class start a fan club for Nancy and Okahara, deeply suspicious of the two new students, leaves the classroom drama behind. Alone in the hall, he runs into a mysterious blonde woman named Wendy. Here, Wendy reveals that she knows both Junior and Nancy and that Junior, in fact, lives with Anita as her brother. She further manipulates Okahara to get close to Junior in order to lure Junior to the rooftop after school where she will be waiting. Wendy claims that if Okahara does this for her, she can find a way to help Okahara make his crush on Hisami a reality. Okahara does what Wendy asks of him and attempts to form a friendship with Junior, though as the two boys wander the grounds and discuss clubs (while Anita and Nancy spy on them from afar), Junior reveals a vulnerable side to him that has Okahara second guessing his actions.

The second to last chapter takes place on the school roof as Okahara succeeds in bringing Junior to Wendy. Only then does Joker appear, revealing to Junior that he attempts to restore the British Library to its former glory and because Junior has obtained Mr. Gentleman's memories, he wants Junior to return to England with him in order to help him. Junior shows Joker and Wendy that he has changed, that he is happy with his new family, that he no longer cares what Joker and Wendy do with their lives as long as they let him be happy, and (through deadpan sass) tells Joker he also has absorbed Joker's memories (revealing comical secrets, like the fact that he dyes his hair blonde and sings karaoke). Joker threatens Junior at gunpoint and Okahara defends him. Joker tells Okahara that Junior is not an innocent child, that he has done many illegal activities when he worked for the British Library, though when Okahara claims that Joker is a coward, Joker acknowledges Okahara's potential as a British Library recruit. He attempts to abduct both the boys when the Paper Sisters, Nenene and Nancy come to their rescue. Joker and Wendy escape in their helicopter and tell the girls to give Yomiko their regards, Okahara is perfectly aware now that the girls have powers and he slowly warms up to Junior's company.

In the final chapter, Junior asks Okahara if they could walk home from school together.

(*Note: The second reference includes a lot of information about the plot in the comments because the uploader has worked on a legit translation. The video of the title is meant to be humorous, poking fun at the "Google Translates" meme, but they actually included a valid translation and an extensive summary of the content in the comments. The third reference includes auto-generated captions that at least gives the gist of the content.)

References:
 * These are WP:USERG sources and most of the content is not verifiable. As you said it, this is just WP:ORIGINAL. Xexerss (talk) 19:49, 27 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Right. That's the key here. Historyday01 (talk) 21:26, 27 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Awesome. Good to know! I'll just bear in mind to keep it on the talk page. So, for future reference, you can only include material that has an official translation?


 * There's also a Drama CD that acts as a prequel of sorts to the Read or Die (OVA) (but again, it's the same deal with the translation work being original; it also references the light novels more than the OVA - which currently the light novels don't have an official translation for; it probably never will - given that a high school-aged Nenene makes an appearance and the last chapter/episode examines Wendy before she meets Yomiko (even though the light novels and anime are generally separate, canonically). In fact, Joker sends her on a mission to go retrieve this new agent for the British Library. (Also, forgot to sign the first time, sorry!) 2600:8801:2F83:7200:8CE2:5C19:3BCF:DEF0 (talk) 04:48, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Hello again. This may not be too important, but can I suggest something? Would it be okay just to list the Drama CD as a bullet point (without the summary) for Other Media? The Sony Music website includes an official listing for it under the "music" tab for R.O.D the TV, which confirms the release date (honestly forgot about it). The Aniplex website also includes an official listing for the Read or Die (OVA) Drama CD. 2600:8801:2F83:7200:6054:6D2B:FC25:1AD4 (talk) 21:34, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Also, there should be reliable citations for the other media included. The information is not incorrect (the games do exist; it's doujin soft, not official), but there's no references to veryify the text. 2600:8801:2F83:7200:6054:6D2B:FC25:1AD4 (talk) 21:48, 29 May 2024 (UTC)