Talk:RH (company)

News Release Tag [Previously: undated and unsigned comment (pre-August 2012)]
This page seems like it was written by a Restoration Hardware employee. It begs revision.


 * If you don't like it, don't read it. I don't see any negative remarks about competitors Pottery Barn or the like, do you? Everything I've provided has been at most, complete facts and unbiased. And yes, I do work at Restoration Hardware, and I've been an employee for 3+ years. The article HAS been cleaned and modified to be as factual as possible with the help from Cfred. If you have a problem, I suggest you say it right here, right now. Neyugnj 02:53, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Neyugnj please assume good faith http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Assume_good_faith --I agree with the unsigned comment that the article reads like a news release. It has citation problems and shows OR. (E.g., the revision as of 23:33, 2 July 2013 just updated based on OR.) These problems are too thorough-going for me to fix, so I have tagged the article. I am going to restore some information that was edited out in a way that suggested a false narrative about the current CEO's time at the company. 67.194.234.28 (talk) 05:38, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

Furniture Origins
Working in Shipping/Receiving for Restoration Hardware, I find the claim in this article that "Most Restoration Hardware furniture is made in the USA" is baseless. Five of thirteen current bedroom collections are manufactured in the USA. These include the Turner, Marston, Palladian, British Cane,and Upholstered bedroom collections.

The Camden bedroom collections was previously made in the USA, but as of January 2007, it is being made in Thailand according to internal RH announcements.

None of the company's thirteen current dining chair collections are made in the United States.

Of dining collections, only the Turner is made in the USA; Near Sacramento, California by Michael's Furniture. The four remaining collections (Camden, Palladian, Portman, and Westwood) are imported.

So far, six out of thirty-one product lines are manufactured in the USA. I hardly believe that les than 1/5 constitutes the use of "most" when quantifying the amount of furniture made here in the states. While it's true that most furniture collections are made of some American parts and/or components, the finished product is not made here and I find the claim made in the article to be misleading and untrue.Almostinsane04 (talk) 00:06, 18 March 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Almostinsane04 (talk • contribs) 00:02, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

I don't actually see a lot about the furniture in this article. When I have time I could try and update... ReginaldTQ (talk) 23:30, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

ReginaldTQ: yes, that would be helpful, but please remember to include independent sources. This article has some OR problems as it stands. I think there are extant sources about RH moving production overseas over the past several years, though. 67.194.234.28 (talk) 05:40, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

Other Furniture Origins
While the previous poster is correct on some parts, there are still some things to consider.

The Michael's Furniture Company, owned by Restoration Hardware, still manufactures specific pieces in the USA (North Carolina to be exact). The Grand Scale sofa collection, including the Roll Arm, Track Arm, Shelter Arm and the Baby Grand Scale collections are made in the USA. The Delaney collection is also made in the USA. The Camelback was previously named the Grand Scale Camelback, also made by Michael's in NC.

Lee's Furniture, is the manufacturer for the Lancaster and Maxwell (regular and studio versions) collections, and they are also made in North Carolina.

Other collections made in the US (I'm not sure who the manufacturer is): Stewart, Morgan, Harrison, Buster, and Graham.

Also, the Camden bedroom collection is not being made in Thailand. They are being made in Vietnam. Same Difference to some people I suppose. Other collections also made in Vietnam: Portman bedroom, Portman Dining, and Palladian Dining.

So counting the previous poster's 6 collection, we have another 13 collections to add on, to make a grand total of 19 so far. 19/31 doesn't seem so bad now does it.

Neyugnj (talk) 07:46, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Neyugnj this appeared since your comment: http://consumerist.com/2008/08/11/restoration-hardware-shifting-nearly-all-of-its-furniture-production-to-china/ 67.194.234.28 (talk) 05:50, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

Gary Friedman
Gary Friedman was president of Pottery Barn at the time he left the Williams Sonoma Company. He wanted to be president WS, and was up for president for WS, but was not granted the promotion.

Can the above comment be sourced? A similar (and similarly unsourced) comment was deleted from Friedman's bio page. 67.194.234.28 (talk) 05:41, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

The Executives section is contradictory. In one instance it says Friedman "resigned" and another "dismissed". Can't be both. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 105.28.119.59 (talk) 21:09, 5 August 2022 (UTC)

NYSE
The company has been trading on the New York Stock Exchange since November 5th. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.41.27.69 (talk) 22:20, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

Article banners
Hi,

Does anyone else think the banners for this article seem out of date? Just checking... ReginaldTQ (talk) 00:01, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Hi ReginaldTQ. I do not think removing banners was a good idea. There are plenty of citations, but there are also many uncited and OR claims http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:No_original_research --Wikipedia's other core principles of neutrality http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view and verifiability http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Verifiability are also at issue here. I have added a "news release" banner, which you'll see, but feel free to change it to a different banner if you think there's a better one. In any case, I do not think the OR, objectivity, and citation issues have been resolved yet. We may require advice from a more established editor--feel free to invite oversight if you think it would be helpful. Thanks for your help. 67.194.234.28 (talk) 05:48, 13 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Hello 67.... Thanks for your assistance on this. I have what could be considered a somewhat decent amount of experience with Wiki and could help tone down some of the language. I've been trying to just simply update it with basic information, but certainly more help is needed. ReginaldTQ (talk) 17:57, 14 August 2013 (UTC)


 * We don't have to necessarily have any banners at all. I was confused so I asked for some guidance on this from other editors and got it. Rather than simply revert, I've reviewed the article again thoroughly and removed 2 instances of marketing language. Your other edits puzzle me as I don't know why the CEO was removed from the box on the right, yet you have added information about him in the paragraph about the company? That seems rather punitive. As for sources, I added a tag for one thing in the introduction. I see 15 sources in there. If you still feel like something is not right we can request more help. ReginaldTQ (talk) 00:43, 15 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Hi Reginald, 67.etc. here. I don't think I removed the CEO from the box on the right--I just added Stephen Gordon as the founder. (He was removed from that box by one of your past edits, I believe.) Gordon, Friedman, and Alberini are all listed as key people now. Is this the part of the box you had in mind? Here is a list of passages that need citation. 1. "The company defines its wares as classic and authentic American." 2. "The idea for the company came in 1979, while founder Stephen Gordon was restoring his Queen Anne style house in Eureka, California. He had great difficulty finding authentic period hardware and recognized a need in the marketplace." 3. "In mid-2006 Restoration Hardware established a new brand, Brocade Home, that was sold in 2008. After the bursting of the United States housing bubble, the company was slated to close two stores in 2008, and open one in Canada." 4. "In June 2008, RH Baby & Child was officially launched via the website and catalog channels. As of January 31, 2011, five stores were to close: Atlanta, Georgia; Pacific Place Mall in Seattle, Washington; Park Meadows Mall in Denver, Colorado; Westfield Fashion Square in Sherman Oaks, California; Rolling Hills Estates, California; and Woodland Hills, California. In Miami, Florida, the location has in the Falls location with plans to close the Aventura Mall location. A larger three-story store is to open in the Design District early 2013." 5. The vast majority of the Current section, which reads most like company-written copy, IMHO. I am not averse to bringing the other editors you mentioned into the discussion here--consultations should appear on this page anyway, so the community can help decide. 67.194.234.28 (talk) 03:49, 16 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Dear 67': You were right. Thank you for helping out. I have trimmed the article so as to make it easier to keep neutral in the future. (Hint: to trim an article, simply remove unsourced or poorly-sourced information.) I have also corrected ReginaldTQ over yonder. By the way, why not register for an account? It only takes about sixty seconds or so, and it makes it more practical for Wikipedians to contact you. Cheers, —Unforgettableid (talk) 03:17, 31 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Logged into my account just for you, Unforgettableid. ForgeGod (talk) 19:09, 17 May 2014 (UTC)

Big fan
I just wanted to say that I am a HUGE fan of this company, they really have the nicest stuff around. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DevineDesigner (talk • contribs) 00:59, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

That's not what this page is for! ReginaldTQ (talk) 17:46, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

Recent reversions
I would like to open a dialogue here regarding the recent reversions of cited material from the Restoration Hardware page. Everyone is free to edit cited material here, however the removal of cited material en masse along with the citations is not constructive. Let's discuss any concerns with the content here in order to avoid any contention between well-meaning contributors. Jeremy112233

The tag above is there since Jeremy112233 deleted questions from another editor (Unforgettableid) regarding whether he is being paid by RH. Previously Neyugnj had contributed advertising copy while employed by RH, and was combative on this page. (See above. I am 67...) I am not sure Unforgettableid's queries count as personal attacks in this context; conflict of interest editing is a serious question here IMO. Please tread carefully. Re: recent reversions, it is important to avoid advertising copy on this page. To which reversions do you refer, Jeremy112233? 67.194.234.28 (talk) 18:58, 17 May 2014 (UTC)

Wow. What happened here? ReginaldTQ (talk) 22:20, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
 * I have since left this page and do not plan to return to discussions here or editing this page. It appears my contributions were seen as less than satisfactory, which I fully respect, and thus I have decided my edits will be of better use elsewhere. Jeremy112233 ( Lettuce-jibber-jabber? ) 13:22, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

Word rephrasing
Not sure why IPs have started changing the word "store" to "gallery", but it seems promotional to me. In addition to changing those edits, I also added some more material to balance out the page. HistoryBluffs (talk) 00:40, 31 October 2014 (UTC)


 * I have discovered whom is responsible: Restoration Hardware itself. Their IP address traces directly to them: http://whois.domaintools.com/199.96.10.4 . I will add a COI tag to the page to caution others, as the IP address has made four edits to the page thus far that I find promotional. HistoryBluffs (talk) 02:42, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

That's no good. Thanks for adding that, I suspected something but lack your skills of investigation!ReginaldTQ (talk) 02:24, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

Shares
According to the last SEC Filing, Berkshire Hathaway (BH) holds 1,2+ Mio. shares of RH, worth: 231.7 + mio USD.. The stake of BH in RH is just 0.2 %. The market value of RH is just over 3.5 billion USD.

The numbers don't match up. --2A02:908:1222:C020:9C5:5DFD:9EB3:A2FD (talk) 19:57, 18 November 2019 (UTC)


 * I don't see any of that present in the article. —C.Fred (talk) 20:55, 18 November 2019 (UTC)