Talk:RMS Leinster

2005 posts
Regarding the ship's name LE Muirchu, the 'LE' in the ship's title is akin to 'HMS' or 'SS' in English. It is an abbreviation for the Irish words 'Long Eireannach' meaning 'Irish Ship' or 'Ship of Ireland'. Oz MH 23:39, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

Thank you to those who have edited my contributions. I find them very helpful. By inspecting the edits I quickly learn the rules regarding style, composition, etc. Oz MH 23:42, 8 December 2005 (UTC)


 * the prefix LE was not introduced until after Muirchu's time ClemMcGann (talk) 15:10, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Article contradiction
The article Unterseeboot 123 indicates that the U-boat ran aground on the English Coast and was broken up in 1921. --One Salient Oversight 08:59, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
 * The textbooks referenced all say that the UB123 is presumed to have struch a mine at the western end of the 'great barrage'. An explosion was heard on October 18. These books refer to editing of u-boat records by Admiral Arno Spindeler. ClemMcGann 20:59, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
 * The UB-123 sank the Leinster. The U-123 was a different U-boat ClemMcGann 17:46, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

WikiProject class rating
This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as start, and the rating on other projects was brought up to start class. BetacommandBot 05:11, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Commemorations
I was of the opinion that one picture of a commemoration ceremony was sufficient. Any thoughts? ClemMcGann (talk) 10:08, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

War Crime
The press at the time seem to have regarded the torpedoing of an already sinking ship as a war crime. Is it?

89.168.93.77 (talk) 10:27, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Only a court decision would have settled this definitively. In discussing Capt. Ramm's decision to fire a third torpedo, Ferguson p35 emphasises the fact that the vessel was armed with a 12-pounder cannon, adding "weather conditions did not help and it could not, therefore, be assumed that their quarry was indeed totally helpless." It is none the less an emotive subject and a terrible tragedy. RashersTierney (talk) 11:13, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Sort of a secondary issue, as international law at the time clearly prohibited the sinking of hospital ships and passenger liners.HammerFilmFan (talk) 16:03, 2 March 2013 (UTC)
 * But it was carrying 500 soldiers, so it wasn't exactly a normal passenger liner (altho this was not said publicly at the time, which is why the death toll was originally 176, and is still being investigated 100 years later). Also pro-German sources tend to claim that the British blockade of supplies of food and medicine going to Germany, which began in 1914, allegedly long before Germany started to use its subs to do the same in 1917, was also contrary to international law (tho, if so, one wonders how the British ever allowed that to get into international law). Presumably then as now everybody interpreted or invented alleged international laws to suit their own purposes. However I'd probably better say no more, per WP:NOTFORUM. Tlhslobus (talk) 13:59, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

Can we get this into On This Day in its centenary today?
It would be nice to get this added to On This Day on our front page today, because today is the centenary of the event, the worst ever loss of life on the Irish Sea, when RMS Leinster was torpedoed by a German sub just 32 days before World War One ended. I assume it was also one of the worst sinkings of that world war, tho I'd have to check where it fits on that list. So I've added it to the list of events for this day and left a note on its Talk Page. However I've never dealt with On This Day before (I'm more used to working with In The News), and I assume there are article quality issues to be addressed (before an admin will decide to add it to the front page), which I don't have the knowledge or the time to address myself (always assuming it isn't already too late anyway). So I'm also leaving this message here in case anybody knows what more needs to be done, or is interested in trying to find out (again assuming it isn't already too late). Tlhslobus (talk) 13:06, 10 October 2018 (UTC)