Talk:Rabbit of Caerbannog

Added A Bit
I put in the bit about Blazing Dragons. Seemed appropriate. --72.60.165.183 23:03, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

This page seems like it would belong more at Cave of Caerbannog, or, better yet, Monty Python and the Holy Grail, perhaps. Is it really notable? jglc | t | c 18:00, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Yes it is notable. How on earth could you reduce the No Ordinary Rabbit to just a blurb describing the film in general??? :p   Tom S.

I think the Cave of Caerbannog should be merged into this one. The movie Monty Python and the Holy Grail references the rabbit, not the cave. Jaylweb 07:26, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

"The video game The Legend of Zelda has a killer rabbit as one of the in-game enemies."

Killer rabbit? What killer rabbit? 213.84.230.131 17:46, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Maybe it was referring to a Pols Voice? --80.195.190.235 18:59, 15 May 2006 (UTC)


 * There's no way you can seriously construe the Pols Voice as a Holy Grail reference. First, there's more than one of it. Second, they're not even rabbits - they're blobs with whiskers and long ears! --220.237.67.125 13:40, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

Carter's Killer Rabbit
I was searching for President Carter's encounter with the killer rabbit, and found no mention of it here. Could someone please put a mention this in and either a link or disambiguation to the wikipedia entry on "Swamp Rabbit".204.49.209.120 18:43, 8 November 2006 (UTC)


 * This has been done. Colonel Warden (talk) 09:33, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Deleted sentence
I've removed this sentence from the end of the first paragraph: The knights also build, and survive the flinging back of a giant wooden Trojan Rabbit, another reference to this rodent. At this point in the film, the actual rabbit has yet to make an appearance, and the knights aren't mentioned in the introduction either. Fe e zo (Talk) 00:20, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Killer bunnies reference?
Should there be a mention of Killer Bunnies and the Quest for the Magic Carrot in this article? 64.229.112.102 21:10, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Yes, it is now in the See also section. Colonel Warden (talk) 09:32, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Spamalot
I think that somewhere in this article it should mention that the killer rabbit makes an appearance in the musical Spamalot. I don't know of any website that can confirm this off the top of my head but it is mentioned on the page for Spamalot itself. Also I can't really think of the best way to include this. Should it get its own mention and spoiler warning, should it just appear in the section listing other refrences to the rabbit? I dunno, what do other people think? 64.229.163.157 01:11, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

This has been done. Colonel Warden (talk) 09:32, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Buffy The Vampire Slayer reference
Is Anya's fear of bunnies at all relevant? This rabbit isn't mentioned specifically. Merlin83b 14:58, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I agree (it's hinted in Season 7 that it comes from her love of them as a human). I'm removing it.Paul E Nolan 23:58, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Inaba White Rabbit
They list the character Inaba White Rabbit from Yugioh as a reference to this character, this is wrong, as Inaba is base off a Japanese story about a white rabbit in Inaba http://www.geocities.co.jp/HeartLand-Gaien/7211/kudos7/inaba.html I'm going to delete it now 70.16.26.211 22:36, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Killer_Rabbit.jpg
So what happened to the pic of the rabbit? I see it was deleted, then someone deleted the pic. Is there any way to restore the pic and fix the issues that caused it to be deleted? Jaylweb 07:26, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Another Popular Culture Reference.
It also mentions the white rabbit in Guild Wars in the game GW:EN one of the norn syas they slew like 3 score bears 2 dozen wolves and 1 very vicious rabbit. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.73.203.96 (talk) 07:00, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

FFXI
Final Fantasy 11 most certainly does not make reference to it. Just because rabbits are a type of enemy in-game does not mean it was influenced by Holy Grail at all, and if you were to for some reason insist that any relatively powerful rabbit in any game is a reference to the movie, your list would be enormous. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.143.64.216 (talk) 20:20, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

This is incorrect. The game explicitly contains enemies titled "Vorpal Bunny," and since wikipedia has a redirect for "vorpal bunny" to this page, I will include FFXI in the list of games referencing the Rabbit. 97.121.24.16 (talk) 19:17, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

I hate to disagree with you but just because they are a type of monster DOES make them a reference in and of themselves. FFXI also has several NMs of this type of bunny monster called a Rarab. This type of monster is cute but deadly just like this one in the Monty python films. Aside from that...well me and a friend of mine have thing going: he says Rarabs are cute and I say they are EVIL!(same as this one) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Darkcat1 (talk • contribs) 16:41, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Shadow Warrior Reference
3D Realms' 1997 FPS Shadow Warrior references the Rabbit of Caerbannog (as well as the The Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch) in a secret in Level 4. --Deuxsonic (talk) 03:34, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Reference to "For God's sake shut up"
The words "When the guardian appears to be an innocuous white rabbit" are currently accompanied by a reference to page 22 of a book called "For God's sake shut up", which appears to be a handbook for Christian speakers on how not to make idiots of themselves in public. I don't see what this adds to the article. Normally a reference is supposed to offer supporting evidence, but in this case that's clearly not needed and a book like this is a mighty strange thing to be using as evidence for what's in MPATHG anyway. And it's hard to see what's special about this, among all the (presumably many) times this scene has been used as an example of something. (I don't even think the scene is a good example of the point the author of the book is making, but that's not really the point.) I'm about to remove that reference. Gareth McCaughan (talk) 15:47, 15 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your detailed explanation but I must beg to differ. Please see the AFD link at the head of this page.  In that discussion, there were hostile editors who insisted to the bitter end that the article should be deleted.  I spent half a day assembling such references to demonstrate the notability of the topic and this source is a particular good one in that it has a section headed The Rabbit of Caerbannog which discusses this scene.  If you currently do not see the need for such references then please spend some time defending such articles.  For example, there's someone currently trying to delete every article about an episode of MASH - see Articles for deletion/The Longjohn Flap, for example.  I shall now revert per our editing policy which is not to lightly give up hard-won contributions.  Colonel Warden (talk) 16:32, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Deletion
I note above, this article was nominated for deletion. Interesting, since I came here seeking information about this scene from the movie and found what I had sought. For future reference - it served its purpose and I'm all the wiser; glad it was kept. JimmyButler (talk) 17:23, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

When did Space Gamer feature the Vorpal Bunny?
The article says the first appearance of the Vorpal Bunnies was in Space Gamer in the early 80s, but it doesn't say which 80. Can we get a date check on that? (Perhaps a "citation needed" is needed) I happen to know that Wizardry featured Vorpal Bunnies, and that has a 1981 copyright date. There weren't too many 80s before that. AngusCA (talk) 21:25, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

I've added a "citation needed"; it seems that the Space Gamer issue in question is July 1981. Wizardry I was demoed in 1980, released in 1981 (can't find release date). Could go either way, so citation definitely needed. 139.80.40.196 (talk) 01:07, 12 February 2013 (UTC)


 * I think any article which includes use of the word vorpal, ought to reference Jabberwocky. Though the nonsense word is not supplied with any obvious meaning, the fact it is used there to describe a sword (vorpal blade), might suggest vicious or fearsome. Nuttyskin (talk) 11:57, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

Translation
Could someone with the relevant skill translate the (French/Old French, I think?) phrase Si li crachait en mi le vis / Et escopi par grant vertu under the Antecedents heading? Currently it is untranslated and so is not of any use to those who do not know the language. I checked on Google Books the book from which it was cited, but the page was not available to preview. Could someone with either the cited book or a knowledge of the language provide a translation? Thanks, Hyarmendacil (talk) 05:37, 5 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Well, I don't know about "relevant skill", but here goes:-
 * Si li crachait en mi le vis
 * Et escopi par grant vertu
 * "If he spat at it in the middle of its face,
 * "And escaped with great courage"
 * If anyone can do better, please let them do so. Just don't take another twelve years to do it!
 * Nuttyskin (talk) 11:27, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

Tribes ascend
Tribes Ascend makes a reference to this,

Quote from the game

"Caerbannog - as the rabbit, Kill any of the hunters"

Should we put it down?, the badge also shows the said rabbit with a bloodied maw.

81.155.170.208 (talk) 10:24, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

Cultural references
Pasting 3 RS cited items here, as they were just deleted from the article. Maybe some day we'll have a place to put these things. (But not currently, per WP:TRIVIA). –Quiddity (talk) 21:45, 18 May 2013 (UTC)


 * A case of "life imitating art" that was associated with the "killer rabbit" in the movie was an apparent real-life, ill-tempered domestic rabbit in the New York City area that had been nicknamed "Harvey the Attack Rabbit", who had bitten six people before being donated to the ASPCA of Manhattan by the summer of 1977.
 * An extra in the movie, Iain Banks, became a critically successful novelist who referenced the rabbit in his first novel, The Wasp Factory, which built upon the primal myths of modern culture.(
 * AppleShare 3.0 was given the codename Killer Rabbit in reference to this character. )

Redirect?
Can anyone tell me why "Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch" redirects here instead of to Monty Python and the Holy Grail? Newwikiprofile001 (talk) 16:31, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
 * (Note: I've added(&fixed) links in your comment, to make investigation easier)
 * Hmm, the last edit summary was "merge" but it looks like it was just redirected. This article did not have any new information appear on that date. Perhaps User:Thumperward himself can give helpful input? –Quiddity (talk) 21:06, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Redirects should be as specific as possible; the holy hand grenade is a notable part of the scene that is the subject of this article, so it's a better redirect target than the main film page. As for merging without adding content, when it came to figuring out what parts of that other article needed to be added here the answer appeared to be "none". Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 08:18, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I disagree with your so-called merge, which amounted to article deletion without bothering to do an AfD (which had failed previously), and I merged some of the content from Holy_Hand_Grenade_of_Antioch. If anyone feels like neatening up, there's the link. 173.25.85.10 (talk) 00:09, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

Siri?
Just tested on iOS 7 and Siri in fact says that she prefers a Taun Taun, especially when it's cold. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.165.188.130 (talk) 19:08, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

Minecraft Reference
my edit is undone,DUMBS,KILLER RABBIT IS NO LONGER NAMED "The Killer Rabbit of Caerbannog",dumb,the final version changed the apparence to remove blood(the eyes is still red,but is changed),and its named "The Killer Bunny",YOU ARE A IDIOT?!?!?,Its even here minecraftwiki.net/Rabbit ,NOW STOP REVERSING MY EDITS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 177.70.192.122 (talk) 17:20, 14 October 2014 (UTC)

Vorpal Bunny
There is currently a section that claims that a "vorpal bunny" appears in the 1st edition PHB. I am sceptical of that, but I don't have my edition to hand. Could someone check that it really is there and, if so, provide a page reference?

Even if there is a "vorpal bunny" do we have any evidence that it is a cultural reference to the Holy Grail film? Bunnies as amusingly dangerous date back at least to the Middle Ages. "Vorpal" is a word invented by Lewis Carroll to refer to a specific sword in Jabberwocky. It need not have anything to do with Monty Python. Francis Davey (talk) 14:34, 2 June 2016 (UTC)


 * I know I'm five years late, but the first "vorpal bunny" in D&D came out in Judges Guild's periodical The Dungeoneer in issue #01 in June 1976, authored by Jennell Jaquays. Reference this forum conversation: https://www.dragonsfoot.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=72402 --Roland 16:05, 5 June 2023 (UTC)

What about the Wizardry series? Early games had an enemy called the "Vorpal Bunny" that didn't just critically hit, but specifically decapitated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.36.251.32 (talk) 16:29, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

I've been playing for a long time, and I can vouch that 1st edition AD&D had no monster even remotely akin to the vorpal bunny. Rolemaster, by contrast, did feature a killer rabbit so dangerous I always took it for a dip of the hat to the Mighty Python.--Svartalf (talk) 13:07, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

Location
How is the filming location not specified here, and no page exists for that location? Tomnadashin Mine 56°31'1.52"N,   4° 7'45.66"W; 1.75km SW of the intersection in Ardlalnaig on the hillside facing Loch Tay Steve8394 (talk) 22:08, 17 September 2016 (UTC)

Meaning of Caerbannog
So the article does mention that Caerbannog refers to the many Welsh place names starting in 'caer'. What about 'bannog'? To me, its like 'bannock' (annockburn)... but don't want to state it on the main page, as I don't know if it's right. Any know about that? --Svartalf (talk) 13:12, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

Tim the wizard not played by John Cleese
He's played by Billy Connelly. I don't know what constitutes a proper reference etc. so I won't change it myself. But the page as it stands is wrong. 2A00:23C7:60C7:A801:313E:B4D0:B682:B0FF (talk) 19:28, 4 January 2023 (UTC)

Duke Nukem
In the videogame title Duke Nukem: Time to Kill (1998), one of the items in the main character's armoury is The Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch, which functions like an ordinary hand grenade. Nuttyskin (talk) 11:49, 28 November 2023 (UTC)