Talk:Races in The Belgariad and The Malloreon

Races in what?
This looks more like a list of all races in this universe than a list of races particularly applicable to the Belgariad. Mightn't it make more sense to name it something more general, and just go ahead and include everything?

If we think of a better name for the whole thing (see Talk:The_Belgariad), I propose whoever gets here first alter this article to reflect it, but in the meantime I'm going to assume this is meant to be a comprehensive list from the entire series. -Salli 21:18, 25 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Angarak
This should include material from Angarak and Angarak set to redirect to this page. Ø 23:19, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

Done. 2005-09-22

Monsters
There's been a whole lot of stuff added about various non-humanoid monsters (sentient or otherwise). The introduction states that the article's about sentient humanoid races; is the tide of opinion against me in including non-humanoid monsters here? If a separate Monsters in... article were written, I'd suggest moving even the humanoid monsters&mdash;Eldrakyn etc, Raveners, maybe Dryads&mdash;there too, but in any case I'm pretty sure rock-wolves, mud-men and the Hounds don't count as 'races' in the traditional fantasy sense. (Oh, and civet cats are right out, surely!) -- Perey 06:25, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

Danlina, I see you readded the entry on civet cats, with the justification that they do appear in the story. But they're real-world creatures! Horses, owls and so forth appear in the story, often with much significance to the plot&mdash;the owl, by virtue of being an alternate form of Belgarath's at a significant moment, just like the civet; the horse more obviously because of the Algars, and Horse&mdash;but they, and the civets, aren't especially noteworthy as Belgariad creatures. I'm not one for redeleting readded content right off the bat, but can anyone explain to me why they should stay? (And perhaps chime in on the above argument before I decide to be bold and start Monsters in The Belgariad or some such article?) -- Perey 12:57, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

LoL, liked your edit summary. I'll go along with your reasoning, go ahead and be Bold. Death Eater Dan    ( Muahaha ) 17:35, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

GEEZ!
>< Someone change it back, PLEASE. TT-TT

Gorim and the Withered Branch
I haven't read the Rivan Codex in a little while and don't have it handy, but I thought it was Gorim that cursed those that didn't follow him, no UL. --Sidhebolg 02:56, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

It was UL, and it specifically says so in the prologue to Magician's Gambit. Gorim merely reminds the bulk of the Godless Ones of the curse when they refuse to follow; the subtext is that if they had changed their minds they'd have escaped the curse. The curse definitely comes from UL, however. Chrismrich (talk) 23:27, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

The name of this article is wrong
The series is called the Malloreon (with an "o"), not the "Mallorean" (with an "a"), even though the people who live in Mallorea are "Mallorean." I don't know what the reason is, but that's how it is, and the title of this article needs to be changed the reflect the correct name. I don't know how to do this, though. 1995hoo 21:40, 18 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Never mind; as you can see, I figured out how to fix it. I fixed the various redirect pages as well. My edit summary was truncated (why does Wikipedia let you type more text than it will display?), but the paragraph above this explains why I moved it. 1995hoo 21:47, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Godless Ones
I thought the godless ones were all one race at the beginning but when they weren't chosen by a god and wasn't until after they went in different directions and over time became the current separate Godless races but I see no mention of that in their section Greatdrake (talk) 06:20, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

The Godless Ones are complicated. Originally, they were no race at all. The godless ones (simple noun) were just all the people the seven younger gods did not choose to follow them. Some of them chose to follow Gorim and look for UL. Those that did eventually became divided into the Ulgos and the Godless Ones (proper noun) and the latter died out. The Dals, Karands, and Melcenes were all descended from groups of godless peoples that chose not to follow Gorim in the first place and thus escaped the curse.Chrismrich (talk) 23:32, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

The Duchy of Erat
I don't feel totally comfortable changing this on my own initiative because it would be a substantive change, but...

'The Duchy of Erat' did not 'become Sendaria.' Portions of what became Sendaria were in the control of various powers... Asturians, Wacites, and various petty Alorn nobles. Erat was a Wacite duchy and became an earldom in the kingdom of Sendaria, but it is one district.Chrismrich (talk) 23:38, 5 March 2010 (UTC)